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From: Marcus Folkesson <marcus.folkesson@gmail.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
Cc: Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
	Michael Hennerich <michael.hennerich@analog.com>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	Andi Shyti <andi.shyti@kernel.org>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>,
	Peter Rosin <peda@lysator.liu.se>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 0/7] I2C Mux per channel bus speed
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2026 10:33:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ak9c6nGBsgMTP099@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ak6m6srzX8dd6_nT@ashevche-desk.local>

Hi Andy,

On Wed, Jul 08, 2026 at 10:37:14PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 08, 2026 at 02:16:12PM +0200, Marcus Folkesson wrote:
> > This was a RFC on how to implement a feature to have different bus
> > speeds on different channels with an I2C multiplexer/switch.
> > As no major complaints on the design came up during the review, I
> > decided to submit the series without the RFC tag.
> > 
> > The benefit with this feature is that you may group devices after
> > the fastest bus speed they can handle.
> > A real-world example is that you could have e.g. a display running @400kHz
> > and a smart battery running @100kHz using the same I2C controller.
> > 
> > There are many corner cases where this may cause a problem for some
> > hardware topologies. I've tried to describe those I could think of
> > in the documentation, see Patch #5.
> > 
> > E.g. one risk is that if the mux driver does not disconnect channels
> > when Idle, this may cause a higher frequency to "leak" through to
> > devices that are supposed to run at lower bus speed.
> > This is not only a "problem" for changing bus speed but could also be
> > an issue for potential address conflicts.
> > 
> > This patchset has been used and tested heavily the last months
> > on a custom board based on a da850 (DaVinci) platform.
> 
> ...
> 
> > Changes in v10:
> > 
> > - Fix gramatics in documentation
> > - Move {__,}i2c_adapter_set_clk_freq() to i2c-mux.c
> 
> Can you point to the discussion where it was suggested, please?
> It was like ages ago (too many patches to review) and I probably
> missed and/or forgot the rationale for that. Also if we move
> to i2c-mux, why do we leave it in the adapter namespace?

Hrm, it seems like the mailing list wasn't CC:ed for that comment.
It was suggested by Peter and the rationale to remove it was:

"
I'not sure it's a good idea to expose {__,}i2c_adapter_set_clk_freq().

Do we really want to make it so simple for random (non-mux) I2C drivers
to muck about with the bus speed? Any bus speed changes not coordinated
with mux-locked bus speed changes are going to be problematic. This is
shown by the discussion about D2 for the multi-level mux-locked example
(patch 5/5) -> it is problematic even when the bus speed is changed by
the mux code itself.

I think these helpers should be moved from i2c.h to i2c-mux.c.
"

> 
> > - Make set_clk_freq() return actual frequency
> > - Reimplement idle_state (from earlier version)
> > - Implement example on idle_state for ltc4306
> > - Link to v9: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20260324-i2c-mux-v9-0-5292b0608243@gmail.com
> 
> FWIW, I briefly read the v9 discussion and haven't got the above move,
> seems wasn't discussed there?
> 
> -- 
> With Best Regards,
> Andy Shevchenko
> 
> 

Best regards,
Marcus Folkesson

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-09  8:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-08 12:16 [PATCH v10 0/7] I2C Mux per channel bus speed Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-08 12:16 ` [PATCH v10 1/7] i2c: core: add callback to change bus frequency Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-08 12:16 ` [PATCH v10 2/7] i2c: mux: add idle_state property to i2c_mux_core Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-08 12:16 ` [PATCH v10 3/7] i2c: mux: add support for per channel bus frequency Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-08 12:16 ` [PATCH v10 4/7] i2c: davinci: calculate bus freq from Hz instead of kHz Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-08 19:30   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-07-09  8:34     ` Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-08 12:16 ` [PATCH v10 5/7] i2c: davinci: add support for setting bus frequency Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-08 12:16 ` [PATCH v10 6/7] i2c: mux: ltc4306: set correct idle_state in i2c_mux_core Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-08 12:16 ` [PATCH v10 7/7] docs: i2c: i2c-topology: add section about bus speed Marcus Folkesson
2026-07-08 19:37 ` [PATCH v10 0/7] I2C Mux per channel " Andy Shevchenko
2026-07-09  8:33   ` Marcus Folkesson [this message]
2026-07-09 10:05     ` Andy Shevchenko

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