From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Tim C Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
ricardo.neri@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guitto@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/6] sched: Fix cluster scheduling in the presence of asymmetric capacity
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2026 15:10:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <akJu2S8SNgp1IaqH@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260622-rneri-fix-cas-clusters-v5-0-19968f2d1497@linux.intel.com>
Hi Ricardo,
On Mon, Jun 22, 2026 at 05:05:50PM -0700, Ricardo Neri wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is v5 of the patch series. The only changes are optimizations to check
> same-capacity cluster and SMT siblings only when needed. Please read the
> changelog for details.
>
> Cluster scheduling aims to maximize performance by spreading load across
> clusters of CPUs that share mid-level resources [2]. It works well on
> uniform systems, but it breaks down on topologies with big and small
> cores arranged in clusters. As a result, it fails on several generations
> of Intel processors already shipped and upcoming.
>
> Consider the topology below of big (B) cores and clusters of small (s)
> cores.
> ------ ------
> | B | | B | ----------------- -----------------
> | | | | | s | s | s | s | | s | s | s | s |
> ------ ------ ----------------- -----------------
> | L2 | | L2 | | L2 | | L2 |
> -------------------------------------------------------
> | L3 |
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> On a partially busy system (one with idle CPUs; busy CPUs have one task
> each), scheduling for asymmetric capacity ensures that misfit tasks land on
> the big CPUs. The remaining tasks, misfit or not, run on the small CPUs.
> When CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER is enabled, these remaining tasks are supposed to
> be evenly spread among the small-CPU clusters. Today, this does not
> happen.
>
> Several issues in the load balancer prevent a small CPU in one cluster
> from pulling tasks from another:
>
> a) update_sd_pick_busiest() may select a fully_busy group with higher
> per-CPU capacity as the busiest, preventing a subsequent fully_busy
> group of equal capacity from being correctly selected.
> b) Misfit-load statistics are used to identify tasks that would benefit
> from migrating to bigger CPUs. Accounting misfit load is pointless if
> the destination CPU is equally small, and it also blocks balancing
> between clusters.
> c) Due to b), groups that are truly has_spare or fully_busy get
> misclassified as misfit_task. update_sd_pick_busiest() then skips
> them, since a small destination CPU cannot help with misfit tasks.
> d) Once a busiest group has been identified, sched_balance_find_src_rq()
> will refuse to migrate tasks to CPUs of equal capacity, even when
> doing so is precisely what is required to balance small-CPU clusters.
> e) The SD_PREFER_SIBLING flag is missing from scheduling domains with
> asymmetric capacity, preventing the balancer from equalizing load
> across sibling small-core clusters.
>
> Together, these issues prevent cluster-level balancing on systems with
> asymmetric CPU capacity.
>
> This series addresses each problem and restores the intended behavior.
> Details, rationale, and code changes are explained in each patch.
>
> I tested these patches on Alder Lake, which has both SMT Pcores and
> clusters of Ecores. I tested with SMT both disabled and enabled. I also
> tested on Lunar Lake and Panther Lake, which have an Ecore cluster not
> connected to the L3 cache. I repeated the same experiment with
> CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER disabled. The load balancer behaves as expected.
>
> Christian also tested this patchset on a synthetic arm64 qemu topology and
> the expected behavior [3].
>
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260509180955.1840064-1-arighi@nvidia.com/ [1]
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20210924085104.44806-1-21cnbao@gmail.com/ [2]
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/e08492e0-d9f3-4574-8841-b633db008507@arm.com/ [3]
I looked at this series and did some tests on Vera Rubin (arm64). The series
does not directly target this topology, because the system has no usable
SD_CLUSTER domain. Nevertheless, there are changes to the common fair
load-balancing and SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY paths, so I tested it just to check for
any potential regression.
I used DCPerf MediaWiki and a CPU-intensive SGEMM workload based on NVPL. The
results showed no measurable performance differences, with all observed
variations falling within normal run-to-run variability. Based on these results,
the series looks good on this platform as well.
Tested-by: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
Thanks,
-Andrea
>
> Changes in v5:
> - Added Tested-by tags from Christian. Thanks!
> - Patch 1 (pre-work): Optimized logic to identify CPUs with busy SMT
> siblings only when needed. (Prateek, Chen Yu)
> - Patch 5: Optimized logic to check for architectural capacity only when
> needed.
> - Added Reviewed-by tag from Prateek. Thanks!
> - Link to v4: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20260608-rneri-fix-cas-clusters-v4-0-1526711c944c@linux.intel.com
>
> Changes in v4:
> - Patch 1 (pre-work): Fixed a bug that would block load balancing on SMT
> cores with more than one busy sibling.
> - Patch 2 (pre-work): Fixed a bug that would needlessly update
> sg_overloaded.
> - Patch 5: Reworked logic using a local variable for improved
> readability.
> - Added Reviewed-by tags from Chen Yu, Tim, and Vincent. Thanks!
> - Link to v3: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20260514-rneri-fix-cas-clusters-v3-0-0037869554bd@linux.intel.com
>
> Changes in v3:
> - Patch 3: Reverted the inverted runtime capacity check. The inverted
> form resulted in migrations to CPUs of slightly lower capacity. Guarded
> the check for architectural capacity with the sched_cluster_active
> static key.
> - Patch 4: Expanded the patch description to explain the behavior of
> overloaded groups and low-capacity clusters with spare capacity.
> - Added Reviewed-by tags from Christian. Thanks!
> - Link to v2: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20260429-rneri-fix-cas-clusters-v2-0-cd787de35cc6@linux.intel.com
>
> Changes in v2:
> - Patch 1: Rewrote patch description for clarity. Added a note
> clarifying that SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY and SMT are mutually
> exclusive. (Tim)
> - Patch 2: Fixed a bug where the capacity check inadvertently broke
> the mutual exclusion of the sched_reduced_capacity() path. Keep
> marking the root domain as overloaded when misfit tasks are present
> to allow bigger CPUs to help via newly idle balance. (sashiko)
> Fixed the description to state that capacity_greater() looks for
> differences of ~5% or more, not 20%. (Christian)
> - Patch 3: Use arch_scale_cpu_capacity() instead of capacity_of() to
> ignore runtime capacity variability. Inverted the capacity check.
> (Christian)
> - Patch 4: Reworded the patch description for clarity.
> - Link to v1: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20260330-rneri-fix-cas-clusters-v1-0-1e465b6fecb2@linux.intel.com/
>
> ---
> Ricardo Neri (6):
> sched/fair: Do not skip CPUs of similar capacity with busy SMT siblings
> sched/fair: Also gate overloaded status update for SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY
> sched/fair: Check CPU capacity before comparing group types during load balance
> sched/fair: Skip misfit load accounting when the destination CPU cannot help
> sched/fair: Allow load balancing between CPUs of identical capacity
> sched/topology: Do not clear SD_PREFER_SIBLING in domains with clusters
>
> include/linux/sched/sd_flags.h | 3 +-
> kernel/sched/fair.c | 66 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------
> kernel/sched/topology.c | 14 +++++++--
> 3 files changed, 62 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)
> ---
> base-commit: 50436392fe2359ea108fd27308f86c8283be1622
> change-id: 20250620-rneri-fix-cas-clusters-bb4287d1e152
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-29 13:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-23 0:05 [PATCH v5 0/6] sched: Fix cluster scheduling in the presence of asymmetric capacity Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 0:05 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] sched/fair: Do not skip CPUs of similar capacity with busy SMT siblings Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 7:13 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-24 5:25 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 0:05 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] sched/fair: Also gate overloaded status update for SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 7:14 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-23 0:05 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] sched/fair: Check CPU capacity before comparing group types during load balance Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 0:05 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] sched/fair: Skip misfit load accounting when the destination CPU cannot help Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 0:05 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] sched/fair: Allow load balancing between CPUs of identical capacity Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 7:20 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-23 7:45 ` Christian Loehle
2026-06-24 5:25 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-26 0:11 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-26 14:50 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-27 2:02 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-29 15:35 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-29 15:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-06-29 15:58 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-29 16:32 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-26 15:20 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-27 19:07 ` Andrea Righi
2026-06-29 16:22 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 0:05 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] sched/topology: Do not clear SD_PREFER_SIBLING in domains with clusters Ricardo Neri
2026-06-23 7:26 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-24 5:14 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-26 0:19 ` Ricardo Neri
2026-06-26 14:54 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-06-29 13:10 ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2026-06-29 16:24 ` [PATCH v5 0/6] sched: Fix cluster scheduling in the presence of asymmetric capacity Ricardo Neri
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