From: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
byungchul@sk.com, gourry@gourry.net, joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
matthew.brost@intel.com, rakie.kim@sk.com,
ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, kernel-team@meta.com,
sashiko-bot <sashiko-bot@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/migrate_device: pin large folios before splitting
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2026 10:33:28 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <akWv6Yd2NHwAIMVS@nvdebian.thelocal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C3D3519D-0D57-45C8-B6C4-64731E9021F8@nvidia.com>
On 2026-07-02 at 06:16 +1000, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com> wrote...
> On 1 Jul 2026, at 16:06, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>
> > On 7/1/26 21:27, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >> On Wed, 01 Jul 2026 13:02:10 -0400 Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> LGTM. Like David said, the comments might not be needed. Thanks.
> >>
> >> I like the comments! They may be uninteresting to those who are
> >> already familiar with these things, but they aren't the target audience.
> >>
> >> How are others to become familiar, if not by this?
> >
> > I mean, it's one of the basic rules: if you lookup a page in the page table, the
> > moment you drop the lock that might be invalid.
> >
> > If we were to document that everywhere... this is not really the secret sauce we
> > want to document everywhere.
>
> In this particular case, split_folio() is used in migrate_vma_split_folio()
> and split_folio() wraps __split_huge_page_to_list_to_order(), which documents
> the requirement of elevated folio reference. One who wants to get familiar
> with kernel code can be expected to chase down to
> __split_huge_page_to_list_to_order() and find the requirement.
>
> With LLMs, it is probably as easy as asking “why is folio_get() needed here?”.
The interesting part of the comment isn't why the folio_get() is needed, it's
where the corresponding reference is dropped/returned. I've spent far too many
hours in this code trying to figure out why a page didn't migrate because of
a spurious refcount and it's not easy figuring out where the matching get/puts
occur.
So the comment could probably be condensed but I think it's valuable.
- Alistair
> Best Regards,
> Yan, Zi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-02 0:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-01 14:06 [PATCH] mm/migrate_device: pin large folios before splitting Usama Arif
2026-07-01 16:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-01 17:02 ` Zi Yan
2026-07-01 19:27 ` Andrew Morton
2026-07-01 20:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-01 20:16 ` Zi Yan
2026-07-02 0:33 ` Alistair Popple [this message]
2026-07-02 7:59 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-01 23:29 ` SJ Park
2026-07-02 10:47 ` Usama Arif
2026-07-02 4:45 ` Lance Yang
2026-07-02 10:56 ` Usama Arif
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