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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"Hyunwoo Kim" <imv4bel@gmail.com>,
	"Tom Lendacky" <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	"Jörg Rödel" <joro@8bytes.org>, "Fuad Tabba" <tabba@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 13/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Pass GPA, not GFN, to prepare() hook
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2026 17:00:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alV8LlCuRQ1aDv5O@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEvNRgEJrq4RXyKDOKMaubHHcbhkh1Rpu3p_6w4X0D0KDjzhcw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 13, 2026, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:
> >> Maybe INVALID_GPA and INVALID_GFN should be defined such that both
> >> gpa_to_gfn and gfn_to_gpa are correct for both.
> >
> > Oh, _that_ was actually what I almost broke.  I was going to track the gfn instead
> > of the gpa, and then do:
> >
> > 	svm->sev_es.snp_guest_vmsa_gfn = INVALID_GFN;
> >
> > 	...
> >
> > 	gpa = gfn_to_gpa(svm->sev_es.snp_guest_vmsa_gfn);
> >
> > 	if (gpa == INVALID_GPA)
> > 		return;
> >
> > That would have failed miserably, because even if if INVALID_GFN is -1ull, the
> > lower bits would be zero after the shift, i.e. wouldn't match INVALID_GPA.
> >
> > I _think_ make that work, by doing something like:
> >
> >   #define INVALID_GFN	((~(gfn_t)0) >> PAGE_SHIFT)
> >   #define INVALID_GPA	((gpa_t)INVALID_GFN << PAGE_SHIFT)
> >
> > Which I actually don't mind conceptually, but I'm still not sure it's a good
> > idea in practice.  For whatever reason, converting between INVALID_GFN and
> > INVALID_GPA just feels wrong.
> 
> The above isn't a conversion, it's picking/defining sentinel values that
> are dependent on each other :)

My point is that the entire reason the sential values need to be dependent on
each other is that if we add INVALID_GFN, then KVM will inevitably convert
INVALID_GFN to a gpa and check the result against INVALID_GPA.

> > 	if (to_private) {
> > 		if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!kvm || gfn >> (kvm_host.maxphyaddr - PAGE_SIZE)))
> > 			return -EIO;
> >
> > 		return sev_gmem_make_private(kvm, gfn, pfn, nr_pages, order);
> > 	}
> >
> > Then in kvm_gmem_free_folio(), open code -1ull for the gfn:
> >
> > 	WARN_ON_ONCE(kvm_arch_gmem_convert(NULL, -1ull,
> > 					   folio_file_pfn(folio, 0),
> > 					   folio_nr_pages(folio),
> > 					   folio_order(folio), false));
> >
> > Which is all a little gross?  But I think it's less gross than passing a gpa, and
> > we don't risk delaying this and the in-place conversion series trying to find the
> > perfect answer.
> 
> Yes thanks, we should go ahead with the GFN version, we can definitely
> update this later, if at all.
> 
> I have some more questions, though not blocking:
> 
> + I didn't notice that NULL was passed here. Is this kind of leaking SNP
>   details into guest_memfd, that SNP doesn't need to know which kvm it
>   is to convert a page to shared? Or is it that in principle converting
>   to shared means "removing from ANY VM" and hence kvm = NULL?

Neither?  It's saying "there's no VM at this point", because there's not.  And
I wouldn't consider that an SNP detail, because any CoCo implementation has to
work that way in practice.  Requiring an active VM to reclaim memory for host
usage would be unusable.

> + Is the purpose of checking for the bit being set to set up a contract?

No, it's to harden against against screwing things up in the futures.  And the
check isn't against the C-bit, it's against the max legal gfn KVM supports, which
just so happens to have implications with respect to the C-bit.

>   It's better than passing gpa, but TDX has the opposite definition for
>   the bit, with 1 == shared. TDX doesn't use this callback so that's
>   fine, but it's hard even for SNP to check since IIUC with VTOM 1 ==
>   shared? What if we just not check and depend only on kvm == NULL?

Because the to_private path requires a valid gfn

> How about this: as a lifecycle callback, guest_memfd calling this
> function should be saying "guest_memfd is doing a conversion of nr_pages
> beginning at this pfn to shared/private, and by the way here's the kvm
> and gfn since I have the information." (all arguments presented if
> available) and SNP says "I'll take action, for to_shared I don't need
> kvm or gfn" (just ignore kvm and gfn for to_shared conversions)

No?  That's more or less what I proposed, except I guess for "by the way, here's
the kvm and gfn" for to_shared.  Because I do NOT think we should walk all bindings
to find the kvm+gfn pairs, and because I think we should firmly establish that
to_private requires a kvm+gfn pair, and to_shared does not.  As above, in pracitce,
that needs to hold true for any CoCo VM.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-14  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-09 20:49 [PATCH v4 00/18] KVM: SEV: Fix RMP #PF due to freeing in-use VMSA Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 01/18] KVM: SEV: Track the GPA of the guest-controlled VMSA used for SNP guests Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 02/18] KVM: SEV: Extract loading of guest-provided VMSA to a separate helper Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 03/18] KVM: SEV: Mark vCPU RUNNABLE after AP_CREATE, even if VMSA is unusable Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 04/18] KVM: SEV: Wire up kvm_x86_ops.gmem_xxx() if and only if CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV=y Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:11   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-10  0:25     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 05/18] KVM: x86: Serialize writes to disabled_quirks using kvm->lock Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 06/18] KVM: x86: Ensure runtime reads of disabled_quirks are resolved once Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 07/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Fold kvm_mmu_zap_memslot() into kvm_arch_flush_shadow_memslot() Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 08/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Split kvm_mmu_zap_all_fast() into "front" and "back" halves Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 09/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Use split "zap all fast" helpers when invalidating memslot Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 10/18] KVM: SEV: Forcefully invalidate SNP VMSA if its backing gmem page is zapped Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 11/18] KVM: SEV: Mark vCPU has having guest-provided VMSA even if its invalid Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 12/18] KVM: x86: Guard .gmem_prepare() declarations with HAVE_KVM_GMEM_PREPARE=y Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 13/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Pass GPA, not GFN, to prepare() hook Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:36   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-10 22:08     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10 22:43       ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-10 23:44         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-13 22:28           ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-14  0:00             ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 14/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Drop the redundant printk on arch gmem_prepare() failure Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:18   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 15/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Fold __kvm_gmem_prepare_folio() into its sole caller Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 16/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Explicitly pass number of pages to kvm_arch_gmem_prepare() Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:23   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 17/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Align the gfn as well as the pfn when "preparing" a folio Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 18/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Combine .gmem_prepare()+.gmem_invalidate() into .gmem_convert() Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:34   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-12 19:05   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-07-13 15:41     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-13 18:57       ` Fuad Tabba
2026-07-13 19:56         ` Sean Christopherson

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