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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Altan Hacigumus <ahacigu.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>, Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Jiayuan Chen <jiayuan.chen@shopee.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/vmscan: clear hopeless kswapd when global direct reclaim makes progress
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2026 10:16:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aliTd8K5lqQZIX85@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALjTKD=XnW-SirJoS1+SJLZ2hNvobEKm2mCfdv72C65-zQyDBg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed 15-07-26 23:20:18, Altan Hacigumus wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 12:12 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue 14-07-26 19:32:04, Altan Hacigumus wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 4:34 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> > > [2] Also, there is one more condition I've been looking at, from the
> > > Sashiko review (a theoretical corner): skip the reset while tasks are
> > > throttled on pfmemalloc_wait, so that it cannot defer the hopeless
> > > escape hatch in allow_direct_reclaim().
> >
> > I would keep this a separate patch with separate reasoning. Ideally with
> > some way to trigger the behavior and prove it makes any practical
> > meaning. Theoretical corner cases might backfire in this rather
> > convoluted area.
> >
> 
> Thanks, makes sense - will drop it from this patch.
> 
> Regarding the other suggestion in the Sashiko review, I will keep that
> one in: an atomic_read() check before the atomic_xchg(), to avoid taking
> the cache line exclusive for already-zero clears in kswapd_clear_hopeless().

While this is generally a good optimization for hot paths and cache
hotlines I am not sure this is really the case for kswapd_failures. Perf
data might prove me easily wrong...
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-16  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-10  2:44 [PATCH] mm/vmscan: clear hopeless kswapd when global direct reclaim makes progress Altan Hacigumus
2026-07-10  3:22 ` Andrew Morton
2026-07-10  4:04   ` Altan Hacigumus
2026-07-11  0:39     ` Andrew Morton
2026-07-14 11:34 ` Michal Hocko
2026-07-15  2:32   ` Altan Hacigumus
2026-07-15  7:12     ` Michal Hocko
2026-07-16  6:20       ` Altan Hacigumus
2026-07-16  8:16         ` Michal Hocko [this message]

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