From: Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>
To: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Rakesh Kota <rakesh.kota@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
Kamal Wadhwa <kamal.wadhwa@oss.qualcomm.com>,
jishnu.prakash@oss.qualcomm.com,
Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: pmic-glink: Document batteryless property
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2026 19:14:37 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <allz1-dD9V_Ck8LK@baldur> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dqe3ntmtmjqixp2l5n7qm6zpcwh4sizr7jd5g3cl3tzpvl6tvo@casnjg3orldd>
On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 02:49:37PM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 05:00:10PM +0530, Rakesh Kota wrote:
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 05:31:39PM +0530, Rakesh Kota wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 11:24:19AM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> > > > On 5/21/26 11:58 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > > > > On 21/05/2026 10:46, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> > > > >> On 5/21/26 9:20 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > > > >>>> Since firmware does not have a way to dynamically tell if it on a
> > > > >>>> debug-board powered device or a DCIN powered device, We are required to
> > > > >>>> add this new DT property.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Neither debug-board powered device nor battery-less will have
> > > > >>> monitored-battery, thus again, why lack of that property cannot tell you
> > > > >>> what you need?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> A device with a battery will not have a monitored-battery either
> > > > > But why? If for such device property "no battery" is suitable, then for
> > > > > me "monitored-battery" is suitable as well. IOW, if you say that having
> > > > > a property describing batter is not a accurate hardware property here,
> > > > > then neither saying "no battery" is, because no batter is basically some
> > > > > sort of battery (just like empty set is still a set, empty array is
> > > > > still an array).
> > > >
> > > > The battmgr service running on one of the remoteprocs already has all
> > > > the information about the battery and it also handles all the type-c,
> > > > PD and charger configuration, only letting the OS know about the
> > > > results.
> > > >
> > > > Hence, unless there's some other hardware at play (e.g. for custom
> > > > 200 W charging), which wasn't fully implemented in the QC firmware,
> > > > there is no reason to describe a battery separately, since the OS
> > > > can't do anything useful with that information
> > > >
> > > > In some abstract way, perhaps monitored_battery = <&pmic_glink> could
> > > > be thought of as valid (since that's the data source the OS gets to
> > > > see)
> > >
> > > Should we use monitored-battery = <&pmic_glink>; If so, would it be
> > > incorrect to mark pmic_glink as simple-battery, as that may cause the
> > > schema validation to fail?
> >
> > Hi @Konrad Dybcio, @Krzysztof Kozlowski ,
> >
> > Following up on the earlier discussion — is monitored-battery =
> > <&pmic_glink>; a valid pattern? And if so, would marking pmic_glink as
> > simple-battery cause DT schema validation failures?
>
> I'd say, no, monitored-battery should be pointing to the battery device.
> Please fix this on the firmware side, so that the firmware can report
> having no battery at all.
>
This won't be fixed in the firmware on my devices.
Regards,
Bjorn
> --
> With best wishes
> Dmitry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-17 0:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-18 13:49 [PATCH 0/2] qcom_battmgr: Add batteryless DC-adapter MAINS support Rakesh Kota
2026-05-18 13:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: soc: qcom: pmic-glink: Document batteryless property Rakesh Kota
2026-05-18 15:27 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-19 8:25 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-05-19 10:35 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-19 10:47 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-05-19 10:49 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-21 7:13 ` Kamal Wadhwa
2026-05-21 7:20 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-21 8:46 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-05-21 9:58 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-22 9:24 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-05-22 10:32 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-05-22 10:34 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-05-25 12:01 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-07-02 11:30 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-07-02 11:48 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-02 11:49 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-17 0:14 ` Bjorn Andersson [this message]
2026-05-21 12:38 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-05-21 23:34 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-05-18 13:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] power: supply: qcom_battmgr: Add support batteryless boards as MAINS Rakesh Kota
2026-07-17 0:12 ` Bjorn Andersson
2026-05-18 14:36 ` [PATCH 0/2] qcom_battmgr: Add batteryless DC-adapter MAINS support Konrad Dybcio
2026-05-19 6:59 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-05-19 10:58 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-05-21 12:28 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-05-21 22:56 ` Bjorn Andersson
2026-06-30 14:16 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-02 11:17 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-07-02 11:28 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-03 9:13 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-07-03 9:16 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-16 8:48 ` Rakesh Kota
2026-07-16 23:54 ` Bjorn Andersson
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