From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752809Ab1GWP4a (ORCPT ); Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:56:30 -0400 Received: from mail-fx0-f52.google.com ([209.85.161.52]:35060 "EHLO mail-fx0-f52.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750708Ab1GWP40 (ORCPT ); Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:56:26 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:55:48 +0300 (EEST) From: Pekka Enberg X-X-Sender: penberg@tiger To: Keith Packard cc: Kirill Smelkov , Chris Wilson , Luke-Jr , intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, LKML , dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Ray Lee , Herbert Xu , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Florian Mickler Subject: Re: Major 2.6.38 / 2.6.39 / 3.0 regression ignored? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201105201306.31204.luke@dashjr.org> <013811$4lfs6@fmsmga002.fm.intel.com> <201105211123.56053.luke@dashjr.org> <20110528131920.GA10467@tugrik.mns.mnsspb.ru> <20110712171706.GA18414@tugrik.mns.mnsspb.ru> <20110722110806.GA29757@tugrik.mns.mnsspb.ru> <20110722202336.GA14375@tugrik.mns.mnsspb.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Keith, On Fri, 22 Jul 2011, Keith Packard wrote: >> Sorry, to me it all looked like "UMS is being ignored forever". > > You're right, of course -- UMS is a huge wart on the kernel driver at > this point, keeping it working while also adding new functionality > continues to cause challenges. We tend to expect that most people will > run reasonably contemporaneous kernel and user space code, and so three > years after the switch, it continues to surprise us when someone > actually tries UMS. I know I sound like a broken record but I really wish you i915 devs were little more eager to revert broken patches early rather than late. I mean, this particular breakage was already bisected but nobody said or did anything - and it's not like it's the first time either! I suppose I need to bribe Linus somehow to be more strict with you folks. Pekka