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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
Cc: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Torvald Riegel <triegel@redhat.com>,
	"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
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	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
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	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
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	Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>,
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	Daniel Wagner <wagi@monom.org>, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
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	bert hubert <bert.hubert@netherlabs.nl>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:40:46 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1508200031220.3873@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150805222140.GA74817@vmdeb7>

On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, Darren Hart wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 02:07:15PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > .\" FIXME XXX ===== Start of adapted Hart/Guniguntala text =====
> > .\"       The following text is drawn from the Hart/Guniguntala paper
> > .\"       (listed in SEE ALSO), but I have reworded some pieces
> > .\"       significantly. Please check it.
> > 
> >        The PI futex operations described below  differ  from  the  other
> >        futex  operations  in  that  they impose policy on the use of the
> >        value of the futex word:
> > 
> >        *  If the lock is not acquired, the futex word's value  shall  be
> >           0.
> > 
> >        *  If  the  lock is acquired, the futex word's value shall be the
> >           thread ID (TID; see gettid(2)) of the owning thread.
> > 
> >        *  If the lock is owned and there are threads contending for  the
> >           lock,  then  the  FUTEX_WAITERS  bit shall be set in the futex
> >           word's value; in other words, this value is:
> > 
> >               FUTEX_WAITERS | TID
> > 
> > 
> >        Note that a PI futex word never just has the value FUTEX_WAITERS,
> >        which is a permissible state for non-PI futexes.
> 
> The second clause is inappropriate. I don't know if that was yours or
> mine, but non-PI futexes do not have a kernel defined value policy, so
> ==FUTEX_WAITERS cannot be a "permissible state" as any value is
> permissible for non-PI futexes, and none have a kernel defined state.

Depends. If the regular futex is configured as robust, then we have a
kernel defined value policy as well.

> > .\" FIXME I'm not quite clear on the meaning of the following sentence.
> > .\"       Is this trying to say that while blocked in a
> > .\"       FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI, it could happen that another
> > .\"       task does a FUTEX_WAKE on uaddr that simply causes
> > .\"       a normal wake, with the result that the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> > .\"       does not complete? What happens then to the FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> > .\"       opertion? Does it remain blocked, or does it unblock
> > .\"       In which case, what does user space see?
> > 
> >               The
> >               waiter   can  be  removed  from  the  wait  on  uaddr  via
> >               FUTEX_WAKE without requeueing on uaddr2.
> 
> Userspace should see the task wake and continue executing. This would
> effectively be a cancelation operation - which I didn't think was
> supported. Thomas?

We probably never intended to support it, but looking at the code it
works (did not try it though). It returns to user space with
-EWOULDBLOCK. So it basically behaves like any other spurious wakeup.
 
Thanks,

	tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-19 22:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-27 12:07 Next round: revised futex(2) man page for review Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-28 20:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-28 20:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-28 21:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-08  6:56       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-29  2:09     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-07-29  4:11   ` Darren Hart
2015-07-29  4:21     ` Darren Hart
2015-07-29 12:00       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-30  8:19       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-08-08  6:53   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-08-19 23:17     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-26  6:29       ` Darren Hart
2015-10-07  8:30       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-10-08 14:36         ` Darren Hart
2015-08-05 22:21 ` Darren Hart
2015-08-08  6:57   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-08-24 21:47     ` Darren Hart
2015-08-19 22:40   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2015-08-18 12:45     ` Darren Hart
2015-10-07  9:34     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-10-08 14:46       ` Darren Hart
     [not found] <trinity-f9a7a25f-09e9-4409-b656-0e035dfca0b5-1438006633780@msvc-mesg-gmx010>
2015-07-27 14:44 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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