From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, y2038@lists.linaro.org,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] timekeeping: Limit system time to prevent 32-bit time_t overflow
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:46:16 +0100 (IST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1510091032100.6097@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151008093923.GQ5778@localhost>
On Thu, 8 Oct 2015, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 10:52:05AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 October 2015 08:23:44 Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > > The difference is that with the one-week step the kernel and userspace
> > > still agree on the current time and it is always valid from the kernel
> > > point of view, absolute timers can be set, etc.
> >
> > Ok, I can see that as an improvement, but it still seems to give
> > a false sense of safety, and I feel we really should not have any code
> > rely on this behavior.
>
> Applications are not allowed to rely on system time being sane?
> To me the current behavior looks like the kernel is throwing the
> applications off a cliff, while it's the only thing that can fly :).
As Arnd said, you are creating a wrong sense of safety. They fall off
the cliff with your changes as well. The fall is just different. Think
about timeouts, user space overflows of time_t etc.
We need to fix all of it, no matter what.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-09 9:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-07 13:22 [PATCH] timekeeping: Limit system time to prevent 32-bit time_t overflow Miroslav Lichvar
2015-10-07 13:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-07 14:23 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2015-10-07 15:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-08 6:23 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2015-10-08 8:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-08 9:39 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2015-10-09 9:46 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2015-10-09 10:34 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2015-10-09 10:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-09 10:47 ` Miroslav Lichvar
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