From: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: sfi-devel@simplefirmware.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH 2.6.32] Simple Firmware Interface (SFI): initial support
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:33:59 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0906231715060.32098@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090623202302.GA15265@srcf.ucam.org>
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 04:00:55PM -0400, Len Brown wrote:
>
> > But given that the hardware is fixed (it was fixed over a year ago),
> > the question becomes what does ACPI mean on such a platform?
> > It turns out that if you look at the ACPI spec and delete all the
> > things that could not possibly apply to MRST, then you are left
> > with very little.
>
> Right, but instead you've effectively taken ACPI, done s/XSDT/SYST/ and
> then only supported a subset of the static tables and added some others.
sfi_acpi_table_parse(ACPI_SIG_MCFG, NULL, NULL, 0, pci_parse_mcfg);
is used today to provide access to a standard PCI-SIG-defined ACPI-wrapped
static MMCONFIG table via a standard ACPI XSDT.
No, this doesn't mean that the platform firmware supports ACPI mode.
The XSDT simply keeps the SFI table name space from conflicting
with the ACPI table name-space.
If there is a need to access another ACPI defined/reserved signature
table, the same mechanism can be used -- just fill in the signature
and the routine to parse the table.
> In return we gain two implementations to debug. I'm absolutely fine with
> the concept of a cut-down ACPI, but I'm pretty uncomfortable with it
> being implemented as a single-vendor spec. Right now SFI's a
> reimplementation of functionality we already have for the benefit of a
> single chipset, whereas instead it could have been a refactoring of the
> ACPI codebase to allow vendors to include whatever subset of the ACPI
> functionality they felt necessary.
It is a fact that the list of things that SFI could have been,
and the list of things that SFI is not,
are _both_ much larger than the list of things it is.
cheers,
-Len Brown, Intel Open Source Technology Center
prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-23 21:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-23 7:13 [RFC/PATCH 2.6.32] Simple Firmware Interface (SFI): initial support Len Brown
2009-06-23 7:13 ` [PATCH 1/8] SFI: Simple Firmware Interface - new Linux sub-system Len Brown
2009-06-23 7:14 ` [PATCH 2/8] SFI: include/linux/sfi.h Len Brown
2009-06-23 7:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-23 7:47 ` Feng Tang
2009-06-23 8:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-23 8:02 ` Feng Tang
2009-06-23 8:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-23 15:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-30 21:57 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-30 21:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-23 9:06 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-23 15:52 ` Feng Tang
2009-06-23 19:26 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-23 7:14 ` [PATCH 3/8] SFI: core support Len Brown
2009-06-23 7:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-23 8:32 ` Feng Tang
2009-06-23 9:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-23 9:15 ` Feng Tang
2009-06-23 17:20 ` Len Brown
2009-06-23 19:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-23 12:32 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-23 16:57 ` Len Brown
2009-06-24 3:34 ` Feng Tang
2009-06-24 7:12 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-24 7:40 ` Feng Tang
2009-06-24 7:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-23 7:14 ` [PATCH 4/8] SFI: Hook boot-time initialization Len Brown
2009-06-23 7:14 ` [PATCH 5/8] SFI: Hook e820 memory map initialization Len Brown
2009-06-23 7:14 ` [PATCH 6/8] SFI: add ACPI extensions Len Brown
2009-06-23 12:18 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-23 16:51 ` Len Brown
2009-06-23 7:14 ` [PATCH 7/8] SFI, PCI: Hook MMCONFIG Len Brown
2009-06-23 7:14 ` [PATCH 8/8] SFI: expose IO-APIC routines to SFI, not just ACPI Len Brown
2009-06-23 7:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-23 7:23 ` [PATCH 1/8] SFI: Simple Firmware Interface - new Linux sub-system Ingo Molnar
2009-06-23 18:31 ` [RFC/PATCH 2.6.32] Simple Firmware Interface (SFI): initial support Matthew Garrett
2009-06-23 18:41 ` Len Brown
2009-06-22 19:43 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-24 21:13 ` Len Brown
2009-07-11 22:02 ` Pavel Machek
2009-07-13 3:25 ` [SFI-devel] " Peter Stuge
2009-06-23 18:51 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-23 20:00 ` Len Brown
2009-06-23 20:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-23 20:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-23 21:23 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-23 22:34 ` Len Brown
2009-06-23 22:20 ` Len Brown
2009-06-23 22:56 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-23 23:00 ` [SFI-devel] " Justen, Jordan L
2009-06-24 0:35 ` Len Brown
2009-06-23 21:33 ` Len Brown [this message]
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