From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755716Ab0CDSqK (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:46:10 -0500 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:44644 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754324Ab0CDSqH (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:46:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:45:49 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds X-X-Sender: torvalds@localhost.localdomain To: Jesse Barnes cc: Dave Airlie , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.sf.net Subject: Re: [git pull] drm request 3 In-Reply-To: <20100304103655.0b14343f@jbarnes-piketon> Message-ID: References: <20100304103655.0b14343f@jbarnes-piketon> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LFD 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Jesse Barnes wrote: > > Whoa, so breaking ABI in staging drivers isn't ok? Lots of other > staging drivers are shipped by distros with compatible userspaces, but I > thought the whole point of staging was to fix up ABIs before they > became mainstream and had backwards compat guarantees, meaning that > breakage was to be expected? If the staging driver isn't in common use, who cares? But this is a major driver, used by a major subsystem in a major distribution. It's not like Fedora-12 is some odd case. And it's not like nVidia graphics is unusual. Face it, nouveau is "staging" only in name. Linus