From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Darren Hart <dvhltc@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
"Peter W. Morreale" <pmorreale@novell.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <sdietrich@novell.com>,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
John Cooper <john.cooper@third-harmonic.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] futex: Add FUTEX_LOCK with optional adaptive spinning
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:59:20 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1004072124250.32352@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BBCC02C.5090000@us.ibm.com>
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010, Darren Hart wrote:
> Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, Darren Hart wrote:
> > Hmm. The order is weird. Why don't you do that simpler ?
> >
> > Get the uval, the tid and the thread_info pointer outside of the
> > loop. Also task_pid_vnr(current) just needs a one time lookup.
>
> Eeek. Having the owner in the loop is a good way to negate the benefits
> of adaptive spinning by spinning forever (unlikely, but it could
> certainly spin across multiple owners). Nice catch.
>
> As for the uval.... I'm not sure what you mean. You get curval below
> inside the loop, and there is no "uval" in the my version of the code.
Well, you need a first time lookup of owner and ownertid for which you
need the user space value (uval), but thinking more about it it's not
even necessary. Just initialize ownertid to 0 so it will drop into the
lookup code when we did not acquire the futex in the cmpxchg.
> As for the order, I had put the initial spin prior to the cmpxchg to
> avoid doing too many cmpxchg's in a row as they are rather expensive.
> However, since this is (now) the first opportunity to do try and acquire
> the lock atomically after entering the futex syscall, I think you're
> right, it should be the first thing in the loop.
>
> >
> > change the loop to do:
> >
> > for (;;) {
> > curval = cmpxchg_futex_value_locked(uaddr, 0, curtid);
> > if (!curval)
> > return 1;
>
> Single return point makes instrumentation so much easier. Unless folks
> _really_ object, I'll leave it as is until we're closer to merging.
I don't care either way. That was just example code.
> > if ((curval & FUTEX_TID_MASK) != ownertid) {
> > ownertid = curval & FUTEX_TID_MASK;
> > owner = update_owner(ownertid);
> > }
>
>
> Hrm... at this point the owner has changed... so we should break and go
> to sleep, not update the owner and start spinning again. The
> futex_spin_on_owner() will detect this and abort, so I'm not seeing the
> purpose of the above if() block.
Why ? If the owner has changed and the new owner is running on another
cpu then why not spin further ?
> > > + hrtimer_init_sleeper(to, current);
> > > + hrtimer_set_expires(&to->timer, *time);
> > > + }
> >
> > Why setup all this _before_ trying the adaptive spin ?
>
>
> I placed the retry: label above the adaptive spin loop. This way if we wake a
> task and the lock is "stolen" it doesn't just go right back to sleep. This
> should aid in fairness and also performance in less contended cases. I didn't
> think it was worth a "if (first_time_through && time)" sort of block to be
> able to setup the timer after the spin loop.
Hmm, ok.
> >
> > Do we really need all this code ? A simple owner->on_cpu (owner needs
> > to be the task_struct then) would be sufficient to figure that out,
> > wouldn't it?
>
> As Peter pointed out in IRC, p->oncpu isn't generic. I'll go trolling through
> the mutex_spin_on_owner() discussions to see if I can determine why that's the
> case.
AFAICT p->oncpu is the correct thing to use when CONFIG_SMP=y. All it
needs is a simple accessor function and you can keep all the futex
cruft in futex.c where it belongs.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-07 20:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-05 20:23 [PATCH V2 0/6][RFC] futex: FUTEX_LOCK with optional adaptive spinning Darren Hart
2010-04-05 20:23 ` [PATCH 1/6] futex: replace fshared and clockrt with combined flags Darren Hart
2010-04-05 20:23 ` [PATCH 2/6] futex: add futex_q static initializer Darren Hart
2010-04-05 20:23 ` [PATCH 3/6] futex: refactor futex_lock_pi_atomic Darren Hart
2010-04-05 20:23 ` [PATCH 4/6] futex: Add FUTEX_LOCK with optional adaptive spinning Darren Hart
2010-04-06 16:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-07 17:26 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-07 19:59 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2010-04-08 3:25 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-08 23:10 ` Peter W. Morreale
2010-04-09 5:41 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-09 13:13 ` Peter W. Morreale
2010-04-05 20:23 ` [PATCH 5/6] futex: handle timeout inside adaptive lock spin Darren Hart
2010-04-06 8:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-07 17:31 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-07 18:44 ` Gregory Haskins
2010-04-07 23:15 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-05 20:23 ` [PATCH 6/6] futex: Add aggressive adaptive spinning argument to FUTEX_LOCK Darren Hart
2010-04-08 5:58 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-05 20:48 ` [PATCH V2^W V4 0/6][RFC] futex: FUTEX_LOCK with optional adaptive spinning Darren Hart
2010-04-05 21:15 ` [PATCH V2 " Avi Kivity
2010-04-05 21:54 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-05 22:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-05 22:59 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-06 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 13:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-06 13:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-06 16:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 16:53 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-06 13:51 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-06 15:28 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-06 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 16:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-06 16:20 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-07 6:18 ` john cooper
2010-04-08 3:33 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-09 5:52 ` john cooper
2010-04-06 16:54 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-06 18:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-06 16:44 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-06 17:34 ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-04-10 23:35 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-10 23:53 ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-04-06 19:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-06 20:02 ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-04-06 23:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-06 23:36 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-07 6:08 ` drepper
2010-04-08 3:41 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-08 4:29 ` drepper
2010-04-07 5:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 21:22 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-05 23:15 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-05 23:29 ` Chris Wright
2010-04-06 13:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-06 8:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-06 14:47 ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-04-06 14:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-06 15:33 ` Darren Hart
2010-04-06 15:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-06 15:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
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