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From: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	sfr@canb.auug.org.au
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 8/8] intel_idle: create a native cpuidle driver for select intel processors
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 21:44:16 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005272131400.24823@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201005271053.31087.trenn@suse.de>

On Thu, 27 May 2010, Thomas Renninger wrote:

> On Thursday 27 May 2010 04:42:31 Len Brown wrote:
> > From: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
> ... 
> > CONFIG_INTEL_IDLE=m is not recommended unless the system
> > has a method to guarantee intel_idle loads before ACPI's
> > processor_idle.

> Then it should better be declared bool instead of tristate until it
> works.

intel_idle as a module works fine, and tristate should be retained.

If user-space chooses to load intel_idle before acpi processor,
then it correctly handlees idle states and acpi
correctly yields.  If user space gets them in the other order,
then user-space gets what it asked for.

The fact that a typical desktop distro load acpi-cpufreq first,
and that depends on the acpi processor driver should not prohibit
intel_idle from being modular.

Indeed, intel_idle has every right to be moduler on a system
where CONFIG_ACPI=n...

> > This driver does not yet know about cpu online/offline
> > and thus will not yet play well with cpu-hotplug.

> What means does not play well yet, suspend or manually offlining a core 
> will eventually (for sure?) hang the machine?

It means less power savings savings than optimal
for processors not present at module load time.

> If this is known broken, should this already be spread through
> linux-next?

If you know somebody with a system that supports CPU hot-add
on one of the processors supported by intel_idle, and they
are willing to test linux-next, please have them contact me.

thanks,
-Len Brown, Intel Open Source Technology Center

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-28  1:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-27  2:42 idle-test patches queued for upstream Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42 ` [PATCH 1/8] cpuidle: fail to register if !CONFIG_CPU_IDLE Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 2/8] cpuidle: add cpuidle_unregister_driver() error check Len Brown
2010-05-27  3:14     ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27  5:11       ` [PATCH-v2 " Len Brown
2010-05-27  5:13         ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 3/8] cpuidle: make cpuidle_curr_driver static Len Brown
2010-05-27  5:27     ` [PATCH-v2 " Len Brown
2010-05-27 18:40       ` Luck, Tony
2010-05-27 23:30         ` Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 4/8] ACPI: allow a native cpuidle driver to displace ACPI Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 5/8] sched: clarify commment for TS_POLLING Len Brown
2010-05-27  5:25     ` (No subject header) Milton Miller
2010-05-27  5:47       ` Len Brown
2010-05-27  5:53     ` [PATCH-v2 5/8] sched: clarify commment for TS_POLLING Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 6/8] acpi_pad: uses MONITOR/MWAIT, so it doesn't need to clear TS_POLLING Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 7/8] ACPI: acpi_idle: touch TS_POLLING only in the non-MWAIT case Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 8/8] intel_idle: create a native cpuidle driver for select intel processors Len Brown
2010-05-27  3:44     ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-28  3:57       ` Len Brown
2010-05-30  9:20         ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-27  8:53     ` [linux-pm] " Thomas Renninger
2010-05-28  1:44       ` Len Brown [this message]
2010-05-28  7:46         ` Thomas Renninger
2010-05-28 17:38           ` Len Brown
2010-05-29  4:17         ` Thomas Renninger
2010-05-27 14:14     ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-27 14:22       ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-27 14:36         ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-28  0:22           ` Len Brown
2010-05-28 17:28             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-27 14:51         ` [linux-pm] " Igor Stoppa
2010-05-28  3:14           ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-28 17:27             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-29  0:38               ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-28  2:32     ` Chase Douglas
2010-05-28  4:16       ` Len Brown
2010-05-28 15:09         ` Chase Douglas
2010-05-28 17:43           ` Len Brown
2010-05-28 19:51             ` Chase Douglas
2010-05-28 20:14               ` Chase Douglas
2010-05-27  8:45 ` [linux-pm] idle-test patches queued for upstream Thomas Renninger
2010-05-28  0:59   ` Len Brown
2010-05-28  8:07     ` Thomas Renninger
2010-05-28 17:42       ` Len Brown
2010-06-16  7:53     ` Pavel Machek

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