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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Andy Walls <awalls@radix.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	jeff@garzik.org, mingo@elte.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	cl@linux-foundation.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	arjan@linux.intel.com, avi@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	andi@firstfloor.org, fweisbec@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/21] workqueue: simple reimplementation of SINGLE_THREAD workqueue
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:01:33 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0911171056380.9384@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B02CB53.9020708@kernel.org>



On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Tejun Heo wrote:
> 
> I might have been too early with the 'easy' part but I definitely can
> give it a shot.  What do you think about the scheduler notifier
> implementation?  It seems we'll end up with three callbacks.  It can
> either be three hlist_heads in the struct_task linking each ops or
> single hilst_head links ops tables (like the current preempt
> notifiers).  Which one should I go with?

I have to say that I don't know. Will this eventually be something common? 
Is the cache footprint problem of 3 pointers that are usually empty worse 
than the cache problem of following a chain where you don't use half the 
entries? Who knows?

And when it actually _is_ used, is it going to be horrible to have a 
possibly upredictable indirect branch (and on some architectures, _all_ 
indirect branches are unpredictable) in a really hot path?

In general, "notifiers" are always horrible. If there's only one or two 
common cases, it's probably going to be better to hardcode those with 
flags to be tested instead of following function pointers. So I just don't 
know.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-17 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-16 17:15 [PATCHSET] workqueue: prepare for concurrency managed workqueue Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 01/21] workqueue: fix race condition in schedule_on_each_cpu() Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 23:04   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-17  0:08     ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-17  7:04     ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-17 16:16       ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 02/21] sched, kvm: fix race condition involving sched_in_preempt_notifers Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 03/21] workqueue: Add debugobjects support Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 04/21] sched: implement scheduler notifiers Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 18:31   ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-16 18:43     ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 18:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-16 18:54     ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 20:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-17 16:16         ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 05/21] kvm: convert kvm to use new " Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 06/21] sched: drop preempt notifiers Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 07/21] sched: implement sched_notifier_wake_up_process() Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 08/21] scheduler: implement force_cpus_allowed_ptr() Tejun Heo
2009-11-17  5:14   ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-17  5:19     ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 09/21] acpi: use queue_work_on() instead of binding workqueue worker to cpu0 Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 10/21] stop_machine: reimplement without using workqueue Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 11/21] workqueue: misc/cosmetic updates Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 12/21] workqueue: merge feature parametesr into flags Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 13/21] workqueue: update cwq alignement and make one more flag bit available Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 14/21] workqueue: define both bit position and mask for work flags Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 15/21] workqueue: separate out process_one_work() Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 16/21] workqueue: temporarily disable workqueue tracing Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 17/21] workqueue: simple reimplementation of SINGLE_THREAD workqueue Tejun Heo
2009-11-17  0:47   ` Andy Walls
2009-11-17  5:23     ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-17 12:05       ` Andy Walls
2009-11-17 16:21         ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-17 16:26           ` Hi ... I want to introduce myself :) Setiajie &#20313;&#40251;&#26124;
2009-11-17 15:05       ` [PATCH 17/21] workqueue: simple reimplementation of SINGLE_THREAD workqueue Linus Torvalds
2009-11-17 16:12         ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-17 19:01           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-11-17 14:03   ` Johannes Berg
2009-11-17 16:24     ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 18/21] workqueue: reimplement workqueue flushing using color coded works Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 19/21] workqueue: introduce worker Tejun Heo
2009-11-17 11:39   ` Louis Rilling
2009-11-17 11:51     ` Louis Rilling
2009-11-17 16:25       ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 20/21] workqueue: reimplement work flushing using linked works Tejun Heo
2009-11-16 17:15 ` [PATCH 21/21] workqueue: reimplement workqueue freeze using cwq->frozen_works queue Tejun Heo

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