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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hrtimers: Special-case zero length sleeps
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:30:20 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1202152125500.2794@ionos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120215202221.GA29552@srcf.ucam.org>

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Matthew Garrett wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 09:14:30PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> 
> > Just for the extended fun of it: The pre hrtimer implementation in
> > Linux put the task on sleep as well up to the next jiffies boundary,
> > so anything which used sleep(0) on a pre hrtimer kernel was going to
> > sleep. That's also the case today when high resolution timers are
> > disabled (compile or runtime).
> > 
> > So anything which relies on sleep(0) as a fast scheduling point is and
> > has been broken forever.
> 
> Excellent. So the real question is what /should/ sleep(0) do - nothing, 
> schedule or sleep for an arbitrary period of time that could be years?

Well, I don't expect slack to be set to years and I really don't want
to special case sleep(0), because then we might end up discussing
special casing usleep(1) or nanosleep(1ns) as well.

slack gets added to all timers, period.

You can tune the slack for your app if you think that it's necessary,
but I bet that in 99,9% of the cases the programmer does not even know
why the hell he put sleep(0), usleep(1) or nanosleep(1ns) into his
code.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-15 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-29 14:59 [PATCH] hrtimers: Special-case zero length sleeps Matthew Garrett
2012-02-15 14:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-02-15 14:52   ` Matthew Garrett
2012-02-15 20:14     ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-02-15 20:22       ` Matthew Garrett
2012-02-15 20:30         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2012-02-15 20:38           ` Matthew Garrett
2012-02-15 20:40             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-15 20:43               ` Matthew Garrett
2012-02-15 20:46             ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-02-15 20:47               ` Matthew Garrett
2012-02-16 14:27                 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-02-16 14:31                   ` Alan Cox
2012-02-16 14:51                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-16 15:01                       ` Matthew Garrett
2012-02-16 19:09                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-02-15 14:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-15 14:58     ` Matthew Garrett
2012-02-15 20:22       ` Thomas Gleixner

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