From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 17/18] tile: Use common threadinfo allocator
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 22:33:20 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1205072227540.6271@ionos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FA82A80.3090001@tilera.com>
On Mon, 7 May 2012, Chris Metcalf wrote:
> On 5/7/2012 3:45 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > What's the difference between a kernel stack page for a given node and
> > a page which is allocated on a given node ?
>
> No difference except in how it is allocated (and of course how it is
> used). The task migration code currently knows that the kernel stack
> should have its home cache migrated; it finds it by VA. In the absence of
> migration the kernel stack page is not treated differently than any other
> page_alloc'ed page.
>
> >> The simplest approach is of course just to allow
> >> __HAVE_ARCH_THREAD_INFO_ALLOCATOR to continue to be meaningful and use it
> >> for tile, but maybe there's some halfway point. For example, that symbol
> >> could refer only to the allocate function, and not also imply an
> >> arch-specific free function. Or, we could have a new much more focused
> >> override that was just "a function to use instead of alloc_pages_node",
> >> e.g. provide a weak alloc_threadinfo_pages_node() that just was generically
> >> just a call to alloc_pages_node, which architectures could override.
> > Again, that would give you what?
>
> The advantage is that when you initially allocate the stack page, you can
> set its home cache appropriately to be on the local cpu, where the new task
> is likely to run. Otherwise, you could imagine using a suitable hook for
> when the task starts up to migrate the page at that point, but you miss out
> on the opportunity to have the allocator return a suitably-cached page up
> front when the task is created.
>
> > If you treat kernel stack pages different to general pages allocated
> > on a node then why not using a special GFP flag for that purpose?
>
> There are certainly different possible ways to tell the allocator to
> allocate a page with its cache "here" vs with its cache fully-distributed
> (and thus less local, and less good for stack or percpu pages). We use a
> different approach (some per-task data structures that pass homing info to
> the allocator) but we could probably use GFP_ values instead. But the
> point is we need to be able to know to do so, and I think the only obvious
> way is to override something in the threadinfo allocator.
Wrong. The obvious way is to use the common code and add a special
flag to it.
There is nothing wrong to add
#ifndef ARCH_THREADINFO_GFP
#define ARCH_THREADINFO_GFP (0)
#endif
and or ARCH_THREADINFO_GFP to the generic THREADINFO_GFP flags
instead of insisting on a separate allocator function for something
which has no fricking reason to be arch specific (IA64 and some weird
sparc crap aside)
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-07 20:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-05 15:05 [patch 00/18] fork: Move most archs to generic threadinfo/taskstruct allocators Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 01/18] fork: Remove the weak insanity Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:58 ` Sam Ravnborg
2012-05-07 20:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-07 21:03 ` Sam Ravnborg
2012-05-08 12:31 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 04/18] fork: Provide kmemcache based thread_info allocator Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:35 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 02/18] fork: Provide weak arch_release_[task_struct|thread_info] functions Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:33 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] fork: Provide weak arch_release_[ task_struct|thread_info] functions tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 03/18] fork: Move thread info gfp flags to header Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-07 4:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-07 13:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-07 19:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-07 20:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-08 17:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-08 12:32 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 06/18] c6x: Use common threadinfo allocator Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-07 19:49 ` Mark Salter
2012-05-08 12:36 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 05/18] x86: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:37 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 08/18] frv: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:38 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 07/18] cris: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:37 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-15 12:49 ` [patch 07/18] " Jesper Nilsson
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 11/18] mips: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:41 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 09/18] hexagon: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:40 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 10/18] m32r: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:39 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 12/18] mn10300: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:42 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 13/18] powerpc: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:42 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 14/18] score: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:44 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 15/18] sh: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:43 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] sh-use-common-threadinfo-allocator tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 17/18] tile: Use common threadinfo allocator Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:21 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-05-07 19:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-07 20:03 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-05-07 20:33 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2012-05-07 20:52 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-05-08 12:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:34 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 19:02 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 16/18] sparc: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-06 17:03 ` David Miller
2012-05-08 12:45 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-05 15:05 ` [patch 18/18] task_allocator: Use config switches instead of magic defines Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-07 20:32 ` Sam Ravnborg
2012-05-07 20:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-08 12:46 ` [tip:smp/hotplug] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
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