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From: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, David S Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Dust Li <dust.li@linux.alibaba.com>,
	D Wythe <alibuda@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Jon Maloy <jmaloy@redhat.com>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
	linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org,
	Mahanta Jambigi <mjambigi@linux.ibm.com>,
	Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Sidraya Jayagond <sidraya@linux.ibm.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Tony Lu <tonylu@linux.alibaba.com>,
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	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	Xin Long <lucien.xin@gmail.com>,
	Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] net: Use synchronous wakeups selectively
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2026 14:19:56 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <amHVtLnO7R2snG4L@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANn89i+o3rT6Jnx_6SK2vdmeuHVkZwTJXD++Kua9ZCJb-wVFHg@mail.gmail.com>

* Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> [2026-07-23 05:17:08]:

> On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 7:08 PM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 07:09:41 +0530 Srikar Dronamraju wrote:
> > > The scheduler assumes in several wakeup paths that a task using WF_SYNC
> > > is likely to yield the CPU shortly. However several networking wakeup
> > > paths unconditionally use synchronous wakeups even when the waking task
> > > continues execution.
> >
> > Somewhat related recent patch:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260708133815.3419465-1-usama.arif@linux.dev/
> >
> > Maybe other maintainers will chime in, but I'm not convinced
> > by the heuristics you're adding. The behavior will be workload
> > specific. The extent of networking involvement should be letting
> > the scheduler know that we're waking from IO, not leaking scheduler
> > heuristics into networking.
> > --
> > pw-bot: cr
> 
> In any case, adding code to the fast path in every network system call
> is undesirable.

Yes, I understand adding code in fast path is undesirable. However as
mentioned previous reply, we need to differentiate between blocking and
non-blocking API. Doing unconditional nonblocking, is probably even worse.

-- 
Thanks and Regards
Srikar Dronamraju

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-23  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-14  1:39 [PATCH 0/2] net: Use synchronous wakeups selectively Srikar Dronamraju
2026-07-14  1:39 ` [PATCH 1/2] net/socket: Record preference for synchronous wakeups Srikar Dronamraju
2026-07-21  5:00   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-21  8:00   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-07-14  1:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] net/sock: Propagate WF_SYNC only when requested Srikar Dronamraju
2026-07-21  4:50   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-22 17:08 ` [PATCH 0/2] net: Use synchronous wakeups selectively Jakub Kicinski
2026-07-23  3:17   ` Eric Dumazet
2026-07-23  8:49     ` Srikar Dronamraju [this message]
2026-07-23  8:57       ` Eric Dumazet
2026-07-23  8:31   ` Srikar Dronamraju

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