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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
To: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	david@kernel.org, ljs@kernel.org, liam@infradead.org,
	 vbabka@kernel.org, rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
	mhocko@suse.com,  kasong@tencent.com, qi.zheng@linux.dev,
	axelrasmussen@google.com, yuanchu@google.com,
	 weixugc@google.com, chrisl@kernel.org, nphamcs@gmail.com,
	baoquan.he@linux.dev,  youngjun.park@lge.com,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org,  rientjes@google.com,
	kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] mm/vmscan: reduce lru_lock contention via vmstat-derived scan-balance cost
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2026 08:49:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <amOJW_RmU0_4LL2J@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32a85420-caac-477e-b371-8628ed28c428@linux.dev>

On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 02:29:23PM +0100, Usama Arif wrote:
> 
> > 
> > The patch looks good but I have one question. We already have concept of
> > pgrotated through /proc/vmstat which represents number of pages we have moved to
> > the tail of inactive LRU to make them next reclaim candidates. This patch is
> > exposing pgrotate_[anon|file] to userspace. Here these metrics represents either
> > the number of pages we scanned but didn't reclaim plus number of pages given one
> > more trip in the active LRU.
> > 
> > Older and newer pgrotate metrics kind of represent something different. It may
> > cause confusion. Now before suggesting to change the name, let me ask do we
> > really need to expose these to the userspace? How exactly users can use these
> > new metrics? I think you can use them here without exposing to userspace. So,
> > does it makes sense to delay userspace exposure later when we have a more solid
> > usecase for that unless you have it already.
> > 
> 
> I do think the userspace counters have diagnostic value. They can be another metric
> to show how much anon/file reclaim work is spent on pages that are not immediately
> reclaimed, including pages retained on actie LRU. It could help explain if there
> is elevated reclaim CPU usage.
> 
> But tbf, I don't have a concrete usecase, and I wouldn't put up a patch to expose
> them to userspace if it werent for this patch itself.
> 
> I definitely dont want to create another hidden lruvec rstat infrastructure for this,
> it would be too much code churn. If the stats really shouldn't be exposed to userspace,
> would something like below be acceptable?
> 

Yes, the code seems reasonable to me.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-24 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-20 16:41 [PATCH v4 0/2] mm/vmscan: reduce lru_lock contention via vmstat-derived scan-balance cost Usama Arif
2026-07-20 16:41 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] mm/vmstat, mm/memcontrol: add _monotonic vmstat readers Usama Arif
2026-07-23 19:41   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-07-20 16:41 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] mm/vmscan: reduce lru_lock contention via vmstat-derived scan-balance cost Usama Arif
2026-07-23 20:25   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-24  1:53   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-07-24 13:29     ` Usama Arif
2026-07-24 15:49       ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2026-07-24 18:32       ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-23 20:35 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] " Andrew Morton
2026-07-24 13:31   ` Usama Arif

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