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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: "Chang S. Bae" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	pbonzini@redhat.com,  stable@vger.kernel.org,
	Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
	 Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: x86: Remove AMX-TF32 enumeration
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2026 08:27:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <amd419IkCNqnHhdz@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52cd5021-0290-401e-85d8-bdff0d07a9f7@intel.com>

On Thu, Jul 23, 2026, Chang S. Bae wrote:
> On 7/23/2026 11:04 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > 
> > I'm not convinced that yanking out support is the right move.  By publishing the
> > feature, for several years, Intel pretty much burned that CPUID bit.  E.g. it's
> > not impossible that someone other than Intel has implemented TF32 instructions.
> > 
> > The opcodes are fair game in the future, because their use can be qualified and
> > guarded, but the same doesn't hold true for enumeration.  E.g. similar to how
> > MPX got ripped out and its XSTATE assets got reused for APX, but the CPUID feature
> > enumeration is forever reserved for MPX (I hope).
> > 
> > If the argument is that "Intel Architecture Instruction Set Extensions and Future
> > Features" isn't binding documentation, i.e. that Intel can do take backs until a
> > feature is documented in the SDM, then I honestly don't see any option but to
> > refuse to accept new features until they land in the SDM.  Which I don't think
> > any of us want.
> One distinction I could think of is whether a feature ever ships in
> implementations. If a feature is actually implemented and is later
> deprecated or removed, then I agree the bit should remain reserved. That
> appears quite clear.

Per Christian, who's mail client apparently doesn't use In-Reply-To and breaks
threading for me and lore, TF32 made it into a shipped product[*].

So "officially", NAK.

[*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAKSQd8V%3DwfVrUxeU%2BfDRgKJBLdiyCkkY2SRY%2BOoRBNE68LFnCg@mail.gmail.com

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-27 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-20 20:52 [PATCH v2] KVM: x86: Remove AMX-TF32 enumeration Chang S. Bae
2026-07-21  0:37 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-23 18:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-23 19:44   ` Chang S. Bae
2026-07-27 15:27     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-07-24 15:37 Christian Ludloff

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