From: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com,
marco.crivellari@suse.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] workqueue: add a per-cpu backend for unbound pwqs
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2026 09:35:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <anCwxOHD7kJuy8Ka@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <am_ipG3sFGybrX2M@slm.duckdns.org>
On Sun, Aug 02, 2026 at 02:36:52PM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2026 at 04:57:37AM -0700, Breno Leitao wrote:
> > Add alloc_percpu_pwq(), which binds a pwq to get_percpu_pool(wq, cpu),
> > and an internal __WQ_PERCPU_POOLS flag. unbound_wq_update_pwq() installs
> > such a pwq per CPU when the flag is set, reusing the existing
> > install/drain path. Pool release and nr_active are already keyed on the
> > backing pool, so a per-cpu-backed pwq is torn down and throttled
> > correctly.
> >
> > PS: We can do this using if/else for per cpu/unbound as well, instead of
> > this labels:, would it be better?
>
> So, we would have percpu-pool backed unbound workqueues in addition to the
> existing percpu workqueues? I'm not sure that makes sense. What prevents
> unifying them?
Nothing fundamental. What I'm working out here is how to plug the unbound
pwq machinery into the percpu pools, and I came up with this
__WQ_PERCPU_POOLS.
I am trying to following what you said here:
described in https://lore.kernel.org/all/ak569WYSm3ygKl1-@slm.duckdns.org :
> [...] just merge percpu and unbound workqueues. Unbound workqueues
> already have the ability to update pwqs (or rather install new ones and
> drain old ones), which is how attribute changes are implemented. If we
> make the pwqs be able to point to both unbound and percpu pools, the
> dynamic switch falls out naturally and percpu just becomes one of the
> affinity settings.
This is the design I am trying to convey to, please let me know if they
are not correct.
a) There is one workqueue implementation -- what is today the unbound one --
and percpu becomes one of its affinity settings rather than a separate
type. The unbound_* helper names get renamed/removed once they stop
being unbound-specific. So, `alloc_unbound_pwq()` becomes
`alloc_pwq` and handle both cases.
b) There is one pwq path, and alloc_and_link_percpu_pwqs() goes away.
c) Which pool backs a pwq becomes a property of the attrs, resolved in
alloc_unbound_pwq(), which hands out either the static percpu pool for
that CPU or a hashed unbound one.
d) Both pool types stay -- concurrency management only exists on the percpu
ones -- so what gets merged is the machinery, not the pools.
e) this ugly __WQ_PERCPU_POOLS goes away, WQ_PERCPU carries the
intent, and the unbound path handles WQ_PERCPU directly. WQ_PERCPU
and WQ_UNBOUND stop being mutually exclusive types and become
a choice of backing, so the exclusivity check in alloc_workqueue()
changes meaning or goes away.
Thanks for the guidance here,
--breno
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-03 16:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-31 11:57 [PATCH 0/6] workqueue: base pwq pool release and nr_active on the backing pool Breno Leitao
2026-07-31 11:57 ` [PATCH 1/6] workqueue: factor out get_percpu_pool() Breno Leitao
2026-07-31 11:57 ` [PATCH 2/6] workqueue: factor out alloc_and_link_percpu_pwqs() Breno Leitao
2026-07-31 11:57 ` [PATCH 3/6] workqueue: release pwq pools by pool type Breno Leitao
2026-08-03 0:31 ` Tejun Heo
2026-08-03 14:02 ` Breno Leitao
2026-08-03 16:50 ` Tejun Heo
2026-07-31 11:57 ` [PATCH 4/6] workqueue: account nr_active by the backing pool Breno Leitao
2026-08-03 0:34 ` Tejun Heo
2026-08-03 14:19 ` Breno Leitao
2026-07-31 11:57 ` [PATCH 5/6] workqueue: add a per-cpu backend for unbound pwqs Breno Leitao
2026-08-03 0:36 ` Tejun Heo
2026-08-03 16:35 ` Breno Leitao [this message]
2026-08-03 16:58 ` Tejun Heo
2026-07-31 11:57 ` [PATCH 6/6] workqueue: install per-cpu pwqs at creation for __WQ_PERCPU_POOLS Breno Leitao
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