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From: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: kasong@tencent.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 12/15] mm/smap: report workingset folios as referenced
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 10:11:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <anFJMBI5Q24BEdkn@KASONG-MC4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <anE-nSqyXcG1g5zQ@cmpxchg.org>

On Mon, Aug 03, 2026 at 09:21:33PM +0800, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 04, 2026 at 03:47:08AM +0800, Kairui Song via B4 Relay wrote:
> > @@ -944,6 +944,22 @@ static void smaps_page_accumulate(struct mem_size_stats *mss,
> >  	}
> >  }
> >  
> > +static bool smap_check_folio_referenced(struct folio *folio)
> > +{
> > +	if (lru_gen_enabled())
> > +		return folio_is_referenced(folio);
> > +	else
> > +		return folio_is_referenced_by_bit(folio);
> > +}
> > +
> > +static void smap_clear_folio_referenced(struct folio *folio)
> > +{
> > +	if (lru_gen_enabled())
> > +		folio_set_lru_refs(folio, 0);
> > +	else
> > +		folio_clear_referenced_by_bit(folio);
> > +}
> 
> I don't really understand this and the preceding 2 patches.
> 
> What is the benefit of a "shared" ref/workingset state implementation
> when you then still have separate APIs for querying & modifying?
> 
> Switching some these callers from folio_test_workingset() to
> folio_is_workingset()? But both functions continue to exist?
> 
> Why not make versions of folio_test_workingset(),
> folio_test_referenced(), folio_clear_referenced() etc. that do the
> arbitration (bit ops on classic, refs ops on mglru) and leave callers
> that are only interested in boolean states, like here, alone?
> 
> folio_test_anon(), folio_test_lazyfree(), folio_test_swapcache() -
> there are many examples where they don't just test a raw bit but
> assess more complex, composed state.
> 

Sound good, I just copied the folio_is/mark_workingset helper from
my previous combined RFC, where I tried to drop PG_workingset hence
used a standalone helper to convert the users one by one for easier
audit and tracking.

I think I can just replace the default helpers and have zero effect
for CLRU. There are actually a few more helpers not used but introduced
here, will drop these in V2. Thanks for the review!

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-04  2:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-03 19:46 [PATCH RFC 00/15] mm/mglru: frequency guided promotion (MGLRU-FG) and flag cleanup Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:46 ` [PATCH RFC 01/15] mm/memcontrol: make lru_zone_size atomic and simplify sanity check Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:46 ` [PATCH RFC 02/15] mm/memcontrol: allow update of LRU statistic without holding LRU lock Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:46 ` [PATCH RFC 03/15] mm/mglru: introduce and always use helpers for manipulating page flags Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 04/15] mm/mglru: make generation page counters atomic Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 05/15] mm/mglru: move max_seq read into walk_update_folio Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 06/15] mm/mglru: use explicit tier range in read_ctrl_pos() Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 07/15] mm/mglru: move refault workingset activation into lru_gen_refault Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 08/15] mm/memcg: add folio-based lruvec live helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-04  7:48   ` Lian Wang
2026-08-04  8:38     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 09/15] mm/mglru: frequency guided workingset promotion (MGLRU-FG) Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-04  3:07   ` Kairui Song
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 10/15] mm/mglru: make folio lru referenced times count a generic API Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-04  7:49   ` Lian Wang
2026-08-04  9:02     ` Kairui Song
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 11/15] mm/mglru: replace folio workinset check and update with new helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 12/15] mm/smap: report workingset folios as referenced Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-04  1:21   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-08-04  2:11     ` Kairui Song [this message]
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 13/15] mm/huge_memory: mark file folio as accessed more accurately on split Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 14/15] mm/khugepaged: consider workingset folios as referenced Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-03 19:47 ` [PATCH RFC 15/15] mm/madvise: convert to new lru refs API and better support for MGLRU Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-08-04  5:26 ` [syzbot ci] Re: mm/mglru: frequency guided promotion (MGLRU-FG) and flag cleanup syzbot ci
2026-08-04  5:56   ` Kairui Song

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