From: John Groves <John@groves.net>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V12 10/12] famfs: Add runtime operation-permission (opts) framework
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2026 17:30:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <anUJmuNV5mFBmksw@groves.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260806053100.GJ3560084@frogsfrogsfrogs>
On 26/08/05 10:31PM, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 03, 2026 at 02:29:57AM +0000, John Groves wrote:
> > From: John Groves <John@Groves.net>
> >
> > famfs denies most namespace, attribute and data operations by default
> > because the userspace log, not the kernel, is authoritative for a famfs
> > instance. Earlier commits already guard each such operation with a
> > famfs_opt_enabled(fsi, FAMFS_OPT_x) check backed by a permissive stub. This
> > commit defines the permission bitmap and makes those checks live.
>
> Why would it ever be acceptable for user programs to mess with the
> directory tree and file attributes? There's nothing here that would
> seem to write to the userspace log. Or am I mistaken, and only the
> program that maintains the userspace log (e.g. the famfs server) can do
> these kinds of operations?
>
> --D
Mostly it's the code that maintains the log that needs to create stub
files and then pass in fmaps (MAP_CREATE). Changes made via the
"front door" of a mount are ephemeral, but allowing them can have practical
value (e.g. allowing chown/chmod, which people actually seem to need to
do sometimes. Also at one point a user sent me a patch enabling symlink
creation, because some software needed that.)
But you're right that any changes we do allow are ephemeral (not logged).
Thanks!
John
<snip>
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20260803022730.75731-1-john@jagalactic.com>
2026-08-03 2:27 ` [PATCH V12 00/12] famfs: the Fabric-Attached Memory File System (standalone) John Groves
2026-08-03 2:28 ` [PATCH V12 01/12] dax: replace exported dax_dev_get() with non-allocating dax_dev_find() John Groves
2026-08-03 19:13 ` Alison Schofield
2026-08-05 20:21 ` John Groves
2026-08-03 2:28 ` [PATCH V12 02/12] famfs: Module operations, fs_context, and mount John Groves
2026-08-06 4:37 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-06 13:22 ` John Groves
2026-08-03 2:28 ` [PATCH V12 03/12] famfs: Add daxdev table and dax notify_failure support John Groves
2026-08-06 5:05 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-06 13:36 ` John Groves
2026-08-03 2:28 ` [PATCH V12 04/12] famfs: Introduce inode_operations and super_operations John Groves
2026-08-06 5:12 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-06 16:31 ` John Groves
2026-08-03 2:29 ` [PATCH V12 05/12] famfs: Introduce file_operations read/write John Groves
2026-08-06 5:14 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-06 20:03 ` John Groves
2026-08-03 2:29 ` [PATCH V12 06/12] famfs: Introduce mmap and VM fault handling John Groves
2026-08-06 5:16 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-06 20:40 ` John Groves
2026-08-03 2:29 ` [PATCH V12 07/12] famfs: MAP_CREATE ioctl and fmap ingest (ABI 44) John Groves
2026-08-06 5:24 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-06 20:53 ` John Groves
2026-08-03 2:29 ` [PATCH V12 08/12] famfs: iomap_begin and file-to-dax offset resolution John Groves
2026-08-06 5:28 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-06 22:14 ` John Groves
2026-08-03 2:29 ` [PATCH V12 09/12] famfs: Register secondary daxdevs by path (FAMFSIOC_DAXDEV_OPEN) John Groves
2026-08-06 5:29 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-06 22:22 ` John Groves
2026-08-03 2:29 ` [PATCH V12 10/12] famfs: Add runtime operation-permission (opts) framework John Groves
2026-08-06 5:31 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-06 22:30 ` John Groves [this message]
2026-08-03 2:30 ` [PATCH V12 11/12] famfs: Report device capacity via statfs so df works John Groves
2026-08-06 5:33 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-03 2:30 ` [PATCH V12 12/12] famfs: Add documentation John Groves
2026-08-06 5:38 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-08-03 8:52 ` [PATCH V12 00/12] famfs: the Fabric-Attached Memory File System (standalone) Amir Goldstein
2026-08-06 5:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-06 5:34 ` Darrick J. Wong
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