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From: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
To: Chris S <coshi036@gmail.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Weidong Zhu <weizhu@fiu.edu>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] nvme: refuse an unsolicited format change on a namespace that is in use
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2026 14:42:54 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <anuJTi4sZiCBuMzb@kbusch-mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACd_6n1=oS_Jdq6s=u2jNmtP9n0Yc13BkKqJHSpsjbWHy=X5cA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 04:29:51PM -0400, Chris S wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 01:30:54PM -0600, Keith Busch wrote:
> > Refusing to acknowledge the new format doesn't mean you get to continue
> > using the old format. You're going to corrupt memory and data this way.
> 
> You're right - the teardown is the problem, not the refusal.
> 
> nvme_ns_remove() never sets GD_DEAD, so del_gendisk() takes the
> non-surprise path and asks the filesystem to write back.  Those bios
> go through nvme_setup_rw() with the stale lba_shift.  set_capacity(0)
> doesn't catch them on a partition, which keeps its own bd_nr_sectors.
> 
> So it should mark the disk dead first and drop the cache instead:
> 
>         blk_mark_disk_dead(ns->disk);
>         ret = NVME_SC_INVALID_NS | NVME_STATUS_DNR;
> 
> Multipath needs more than that - the openers are on head->disk, and
> only the path gets removed.
> 
> Is that the direction, or is refuse-and-remove wrong here to begin
> with?

You need a nvme spec level change for this to work. There's nothing we
can do today to close every race where the driver attempts to use a
stale LBA shift when the format was changed externally.

What I proposed in the past was that the device has to return a new
error code for all new IO until the host queries the appropriate
Namespace identification to acknowledge the new LBA format. Kind of like
a SCSI "Check Condition Parameters Changed". An enlightend host could
trigger a queue freeze and namespace rescan after seeing this status,
clearing the device's latch and resume IO after setting up the new queue
limits.

      reply	other threads:[~2026-08-11 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-11 19:21 [RFC PATCH] nvme: refuse an unsolicited format change on a namespace that is in use Chao Shi
2026-08-11 19:30 ` Keith Busch
2026-08-11 20:29   ` Chris S
2026-08-11 20:42     ` Keith Busch [this message]

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