From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Eric Chanudet <echanude@redhat.com>
Cc: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"David Hildenbrand" <david@kernel.org>,
"Lorenzo Stoakes" <ljs@kernel.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
"Shakeel Butt" <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@redhat.com>,
"Albert Esteve" <aesteve@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] mm/cma: charge cma allocation to memcg using per area counters
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2026 16:59:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ao2t6HP-Zt5KDg30@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ao2gA_m3BCBu2esy@echanude-thinkpadx1carbongen13.rmtusma.csb>
On Tue 25-08-26 10:47:53, Eric Chanudet wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 10:58:18AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 21-08-26 14:56:52, Eric Chanudet wrote:
> > > CMA allocations are currently unaccounted for by cgroup memory
> > > controllers. As system resources, they should fall under memcg, but CMA
> > > areas partition the available space for different purposes and memcg
> > > doesn't have a good representation for that.
> >
> > Which CMA usecases are covered by this work? It would be also great to
> > spend more time describing usecases.
>
> We would like to offer some usage guaranties to userspace processes
> ending up doing allocations in CMA.
>
> For example, a shared CMA area is described in device-tree for an ARM64
> platforms. Userspace components could then, for example, allocate from
> it through the dmabuf heap, or a device or framework-specific ioctl for
> that matter, to use the buffer with sensors. The dtb may have other CMA
> areas described additionally that may or may not be used by that
> component. In this context, we would like the ability to limit one of
> the userspace component to over-allocate and choke the other(s).
How exactly is this supposed to work? How is the CMA access controled
and opted in for accounting. What happens when memcg limits are hit. And
many more details, please.
> memcg
> looked like a good fit to achieve this, albeit handling the areas, so a
> cgroup has a quota in a given CMA resource.
Please expand more on why do you think this fits into the memcg model.
AFAIU we are talking about a unreclaimable memory and reservations of
CMA areas.
> This trails from an earlier post where we tried doing this using
> dmem[1], but I was unable to reconcile the requirement for memcg
> accounting[2] since from dmem I didn't have memory objects to charge nor
> the guaranty there was one. Given CMA is always system memory, it looked
> like a better fit to try something without dmem.
>
> Best,
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260519-cgroup-dmem-memcg-double-charge-v2-0-db4d1407062b@redhat.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/ahB7pCu_G4vuswc0@linux.dev/
>
> > --
> > Michal Hocko
> > SUSE Labs
> >
>
> --
> Eric Chanudet
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-25 14:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-21 18:56 [PATCH 00/11] mm/cma: charge cma allocation to memcg using per area counters Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 01/11] mm/cma: drop const for struct page on release API Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 02/11] mm/cma: include linux/cma.h in cma.h Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 03/11] cgroup: add memory_cma_accounting mount option Eric Chanudet
2026-08-24 7:02 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-24 22:03 ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 04/11] memcg: add cma charge/uncharge functions for area counters Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 05/11] mm/cma: charge cma allocation to memcg per " Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 06/11] memcg: register per-area usage counters in cgroupfs Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:56 ` [PATCH 07/11] selftests: cgroup: add cma configs for cgroup selftest suite Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:57 ` [PATCH 08/11] selftests: cgroup: add memcg cma tests Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:57 ` [PATCH 09/11] selftests: cgroup: add a vmtest script for memcg Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:57 ` [PATCH 10/11] selftests: cgroup: add memcg hugetlb_cma tests Eric Chanudet
2026-08-21 18:57 ` [PATCH 11/11] selftests: cgroup: amend vmtest-memcg to run the hugetlb cma tests Eric Chanudet
2026-08-23 7:02 ` [PATCH 00/11] mm/cma: charge cma allocation to memcg using per area counters Mike Rapoport
2026-08-24 21:58 ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-25 7:40 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-24 8:58 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-25 14:47 ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-25 14:59 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2026-08-25 18:33 ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-25 19:19 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-25 20:58 ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-26 8:04 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-25 15:45 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-25 16:26 ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-25 18:50 ` Eric Chanudet
2026-08-26 8:02 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-24 13:18 ` Michal Koutný
2026-08-25 14:54 ` Eric Chanudet
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