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From: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	maz@kernel.org, oliver.upton@linux.dev, joey.gouly@arm.com,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com, joro@8bytes.org,
	jgg@ziepe.ca, mark.rutland@arm.com, qperret@google.com,
	tabba@google.com, vdonnefort@google.com, sebastianene@google.com,
	keirf@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 23/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Enable nesting
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2026 08:54:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ao6puxVSNsLC8aql@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <178769159057.3356902.13161185498161727294.b4-review@b4>

On Tue, Aug 25, 2026 at 05:59:50PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > [ ... 129 lines skipped ... ]
> > +	ret = smmu_attach_stage_2(&target);
> > +	if (ret)
> > +		return ret;
> > +	hyp_spin_lock(&smmu->hw_lock);
> > +	cur_valid = FIELD_GET(STRTAB_STE_0_V, le64_to_cpu(hyp_ste_ptr->data[0]));
> > +	target_cfg = FIELD_GET(STRTAB_STE_0_CFG, le64_to_cpu(target.data[0]));
> > +	target_valid = FIELD_GET(STRTAB_STE_0_V, le64_to_cpu(target.data[0]));
> > +	if ((cur_valid && !target_valid) ||
> > +	    (target_cfg == STRTAB_STE_0_CFG_ABORT)) {
> > +		WRITE_ONCE(hyp_ste_ptr->data[0], target.data[0]);
> > +		WARN_ON(smmu_send_cmd(smmu, &cfgi_cmd));
> > +		for (i = 1; i < STRTAB_STE_DWORDS; i++)
> > +			WRITE_ONCE(hyp_ste_ptr->data[i], target.data[i]);
> > +	} else {
> > +		for (i = 1; i < STRTAB_STE_DWORDS; i++)
> > +			WRITE_ONCE(hyp_ste_ptr->data[i], target.data[i]);
> > +		WARN_ON(smmu_send_cmd(smmu, &cfgi_cmd));
> > +		WRITE_ONCE(hyp_ste_ptr->data[0], target.data[0]);
> > +	}
> 
> This doesn't look good enough, a driver can't safe writely to a valid
> STE in any order like this, and it can't make it non-valid or risk
> breaking guests. We had this bug in linux already, the hitless STE
> update in the hypervisor is mandatory for linux guests using PASID.

This piggy-backs on the kernel algorithm, as described in the comment
in this patch:
+       /*
+        * Summary of each host emulated state vs real HW.
+        * |    Host    |       HW      |
+        * ==============================
+        * |    V=0     |       V=0     |
+        * |    Abort   |       Abort   |
+        * |    Bypass  |       S2      |
+        * |    S1      |       S1+S2   |
+        *
+        * For the host, any V=0 transition is not hitless, all other permutations of
+        * (abort, bypass, S1) transitions are hitless.
+        * For the HW state, any V=0 transition is not hitless, as all the S2 config is
+        * always the same (ttbr, vtcr...), all other transitions should be hitless too.
+        * However, the host is not trusted, which means that any V=0 <=> V=1 transitions
+        * or any transition to an abort STE we need to enforce writing order of the STE
+        * dword 0 and add CFGI.
+        * Otherwise, we write the STE in the opposite order to cover cases from abort
+        * to S2 or nested.
+        */

So this way, the hypervisor doesn't break the STE and keeps the host
STE transitions hitless.

Or there is an example that I missed and is broken by this?

Thanks,
Mostafa

> 
> You should use the STE programmer logic from the main driver which
> gets this right for every scenario a linux guest can trigger. I don't
> think there is anything about it that would be difficult for pkvm.
> 
> -- 
> Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-26  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-15 11:58 [PATCH v7 00/24] KVM: arm64: SMMUv3 driver for pKVM (trap and emulate) Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 01/24] KVM: arm64: Add a generic clock Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 13:48   ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-15 14:13     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 14:34       ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 02/24] KVM: arm64: Donate MMIO to the hypervisor Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 17:26   ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-15 18:28     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-08-05 12:47   ` Sebastian Ene
2026-08-05 13:42     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-08-05 14:57       ` Sebastian Ene
2026-08-05 15:26         ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 03/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Split code with hyp Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 04/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move TLB range invalidation into common code Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 05/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move IDR parsing to common functions Mostafa Saleh
2026-08-25 20:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-26  9:44     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 06/24] KVM: arm64: iommu: Introduce IOMMU driver infrastructure Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 07/24] KVM: arm64: iommu: Shadow host stage-2 page table Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 17:56   ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-07-15 18:43     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-23 15:29   ` Sebastian Ene
2026-07-24  7:29     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 08/24] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add memory pool Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 09/24] KVM: arm64: iommu: Support DABT for IOMMU Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 10/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add SMMUv3 driver Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 11/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add the kernel driver Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 12/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Probe SMMU HW Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 13/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add MMIO emulation Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 14/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow the command queue Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-23 14:55   ` Sebastian Ene
2026-07-23 15:15     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 15/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add CMDQ functions Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 16/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Emulate CMDQ for host Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 17/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow stream table Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 18/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow STEs Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:59 ` [PATCH v7 19/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Share other queues Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:59 ` [PATCH v7 20/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Emulate GBPA Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:59 ` [PATCH v7 21/24] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Support io-pgtable-arm in the hypervisor Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:59 ` [PATCH v7 22/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow the CPU stage-2 page table Mostafa Saleh
2026-07-15 11:59 ` [PATCH v7 23/24] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Enable nesting Mostafa Saleh
2026-08-25 20:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-26  8:54     ` Mostafa Saleh [this message]
2026-07-15 11:59 ` [PATCH v7 24/24] KVM: arm64: Add documentation for pKVM DMA isolation Mostafa Saleh
2026-08-25 20:59 ` [PATCH v7 00/24] KVM: arm64: SMMUv3 driver for pKVM (trap and emulate) Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-26  8:45   ` Mostafa Saleh

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