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From: daw@mozart.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: can chroot be made safe for non-root?
Date: 16 Oct 2002 22:00:38 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aokni6$9n9$1@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87elaqrqg4.fsf@ceramic.fifi.org

Philippe Troin  wrote:
>daw@mozart.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) writes:
>> Philippe Troin  wrote:
>> >  fd = open("/", O_RDONLY);
>> >  chroot("/tmp");
>> >  fchdir(fd);
>> >
>> >and you're out of the chroot.
>> 
>> Irrelevant.  If a process *wants* to voluntarily sandbox itself, it can
>> close all open file descriptors before sandboxing.
>
>You missed the point.
>
>If the process can be forced to run the above (possibly via a stack
>overflow), then it is out of the chroot.

Ahh, yes.  Exactly so.  My apologies for missing your point.

Still, I don't think this is a big deal.  The problem is that if
a chroot-ed process can call chroot() again, it can escape from the
chroot jail.  There is one obvious solution: simply don't allow chroot-ed
process to call chroot() again.  This is addressed in the link I posted
previously.

So I still think that chroot() could plausibly be made safe for non-root
users.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-16 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-16  5:51 can chroot be made safe for non-root? Eric Buddington
2002-10-16  6:44 ` Philippe Troin
2002-10-16 21:18   ` David Wagner
2002-10-16 22:04     ` Philippe Troin
2002-10-16 22:00       ` David Wagner [this message]
2002-10-19 17:44   ` Eric Buddington
2002-10-19 19:07     ` Bernd Eckenfels
     [not found]       ` <200210201715.07150.landley@trommello.org>
2002-10-21 20:29         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-10-22 15:42     ` Jesse Pollard
2002-10-22 16:55       ` Shaya Potter
2002-10-21 15:22   ` Alan Cox
2002-10-22  7:21     ` Ville Herva
2002-10-22 14:15       ` Shaya Potter
2002-10-22 15:55         ` Martin Josefsson
2002-10-16 21:14 ` David Wagner
2002-10-18 19:01 ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-18 20:14   ` David Wagner
2002-10-18 21:07     ` Shaya Potter
2002-10-18 21:00       ` David Wagner
2002-10-18 21:36         ` Shaya Potter
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-17  5:08 Niels Provos
2002-10-19 19:42 Hank Leininger
2002-10-20 10:40 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-10-20 14:49   ` Shaya Potter

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