From: daw@mozart.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: can chroot be made safe for non-root?
Date: 18 Oct 2002 21:00:34 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aopspi$alg$1@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1034975267.2259.81.camel@zaphod
Shaya Potter wrote:
>the problem with chroot() is that they dont nest.
That's *a* problem, but not (IMHO) the most significant problem.
The biggest disadvantages with chroot() (as I see it) are:
* not useable unless you're root
* too coarse-grained
* only protects the filesystem, but not other resources (e.g., the network)
* not suitable for jailing root
> If however, one could provide even a single level of nesting, such that
> a chroot outside of a chroot sets the first level, and any other chroot
> after that sets the inner level, then even root wouldn't be able to
> break out of the chroot (presuming it didn't bring any fd's into the
> chroot w/ it).
This is not quite right. There are LOTS of other ways that root
can break out of a chroot.
Actually, I suspect that nested chroot()s may not be needed very
frequently, so I think a simpler approach may be simply to prevent
a chrooted process from calling chroot() again: i.e., prevent nesting.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-18 21:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-16 5:51 can chroot be made safe for non-root? Eric Buddington
2002-10-16 6:44 ` Philippe Troin
2002-10-16 21:18 ` David Wagner
2002-10-16 22:04 ` Philippe Troin
2002-10-16 22:00 ` David Wagner
2002-10-19 17:44 ` Eric Buddington
2002-10-19 19:07 ` Bernd Eckenfels
[not found] ` <200210201715.07150.landley@trommello.org>
2002-10-21 20:29 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-10-22 15:42 ` Jesse Pollard
2002-10-22 16:55 ` Shaya Potter
2002-10-21 15:22 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-22 7:21 ` Ville Herva
2002-10-22 14:15 ` Shaya Potter
2002-10-22 15:55 ` Martin Josefsson
2002-10-16 21:14 ` David Wagner
2002-10-18 19:01 ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-18 20:14 ` David Wagner
2002-10-18 21:07 ` Shaya Potter
2002-10-18 21:00 ` David Wagner [this message]
2002-10-18 21:36 ` Shaya Potter
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-17 5:08 Niels Provos
2002-10-19 19:42 Hank Leininger
2002-10-20 10:40 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-10-20 14:49 ` Shaya Potter
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