From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Chuck Lever <cel@kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Ameer Hamza <ameer.hamza@truenas.com>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>, NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
Olga Kornievskaia <okorniev@redhat.com>,
Dai Ngo <Dai.Ngo@oracle.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] NFSD: Fix duplicate fsnotify access events for iterator READs
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2026 21:57:44 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aovPSDE_IGKggzyN@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxgUOqFv6pVmdT_+4DjA0KQoQDCzN2Xz=xm1FyumewHZXg@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Aug 22, 2026 at 12:21:12PM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> (1) In this series
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20231122122715.2561213-1-amir73il@gmail.com/
> we intentionally moved the permission hook outside
> of the splice iterators because we wanted to avoid calling them
> with freeze protection held and also there were some duplicate calls
> for this work.
This got me into a little rathole of looking into the other
do_splice_direct_actor callers. And I still don't understand why
taking file_start_write outside the main splice machinery is fine
for splice_file_range callers, but not for do_splice_direct callers,
and what consideration exists for potential new callers.
(and yes, the naming does not help)
> (2) emitting many READ events from an iterator instead of one event for
> the user's READ request is more noisy and serves no purpose to users.
> In most cases (but not always) those events could be merged, but at the
> cost of futile CPU cycles.
Yes.
> >From a quick inspection of the code, it looks like:
> - fsnotify_access() is missing in vfs_splice_read()
Yes. Then again I don't really understand vfs_splice_read, it basically
just forward ->splice_read. I guess for backing_file this is
expected and matches what do_backing_file_read_iter does. for
code it looks weird as the context doesn't change at all.
> - the naming convention for splice_ do_splice_ vfs_splice_ is a horror
The entire cascade of do_*, *actor* and the whole structure of the
splіce code is horrible unfortunately. Part of that is due to the
mess of inflicting a fake pipe for the fastpath callers that don't
need it, but paet of it is just self-inflicted bad naming.
> - we could make the low level splice_direct_to_actor() static and possibly
> rename it to splice_direct_to_actor_sd() or something
> - we could export vfs_splice_direct_to_actor() for nfsd which wraps
> splice_direct_to_actor() with permission hook and fsnotify_access
The latter is the right thing to do.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-24 4:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-18 22:57 [PATCH 1/2] NFSD: Fix duplicate fsnotify access events for iterator READs Ameer Hamza
2026-08-18 22:57 ` [PATCH 2/2] NFSD: Update the atime " Ameer Hamza
2026-08-19 5:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-08-19 14:27 ` Chuck Lever
2026-08-19 6:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] NFSD: Fix duplicate fsnotify access events " Christoph Hellwig
2026-08-19 14:03 ` Chuck Lever
2026-08-22 10:21 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-08-23 16:21 ` Chuck Lever
2026-08-24 8:36 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-08-24 4:57 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-08-24 9:26 ` Amir Goldstein
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