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From: "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hps@intermeta.de>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: One for the Security Guru's
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:38:46 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ap8f36$8ge$1@forge.intermeta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0210231346500.26808-100000@innerfire.net

Gerhard Mack <gmack@innerfire.net> writes:

>Actually at the place that just went bankrupt on me I had a Security
>consultant complain that 2 of my servers were outside the firewall.  He
>recommended that I get a firewall just for those 2 servers but backed off
>when I pointed out that I would need to open all of the same ports that
>are open on the server anyways so the vulnerability isn't any less with
>the firewall.

So you should've bought a more expensive firewall that offers protocol
based forwarding instead of being a simple packet filter.

packet filter != firewall. That's the main lie behind most of the
"Linux based" firewalls.

Get the real thing. Checkpoint. PIX. But that's a little
more expensive than "xxx firewall based on Linux".

Actually, there _are_ security consultants, that know what they're
talking about. Unfortunately they're drowned out most of the time by
the drone of so called "self-certified Linux experts" which believe,
everything can be handled by using the only tool they know.

>Never trust Security Consultants.

BS. Invest money in real consultants that know their trade. They
simply might not be the cheapest and they might tell you solutions
that hurt (e.g. training your staff) but of course there are lots of
people that know what they're talking about.

	Ciao
		Henning

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-24  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-23 13:02 One for the Security Guru's Robert L. Harris
2002-10-23 13:13 ` John Jasen
2002-10-23 13:20 ` Keith Owens
2002-10-24  7:56   ` Greg KH
2002-10-23 13:45 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-23 13:59   ` Gilad Ben-ossef
2002-10-23 22:14     ` James Cleverdon
2002-10-23 22:17       ` James Stevenson
2002-10-23 22:39         ` James Cleverdon
2002-10-23 22:44           ` James Stevenson
2002-10-24  6:12         ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2002-11-06 21:39       ` Florian Weimer
2002-10-23 14:57 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-10-23 17:56   ` Gerhard Mack
2002-10-24  9:38     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen [this message]
     [not found]       ` <ap8f36$8ge$1@dstl.gov.uk>
2002-10-24 10:01         ` Tony Gale
2002-10-24 16:13           ` Gerhard Mack
2002-10-24 16:39             ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 16:34               ` David Lang
2002-10-24 17:04               ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2002-10-25  9:44                 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2002-10-25 20:52                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-10-26 10:43                     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-27 10:17                       ` Rogier Wolff
2002-10-28  7:47                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-10-24 22:02               ` Danny Lepage
2002-10-25  9:40                 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 14:23       ` Gilad Ben-ossef
2002-10-25  4:09       ` Stephen Satchell
2002-10-25 13:47         ` Stephen Frost
2002-10-26 10:38           ` Rogier Wolff
2002-10-26  9:44       ` Rogier Wolff
2002-10-26 10:46         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-23 16:23 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-23 17:55   ` David Lang
2002-10-23 19:46     ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-10-23 22:15 ` James Stevenson
2002-10-24  9:47   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-25 12:28     ` Daniel Egger
2002-10-25 15:22       ` Alex Riesen
2002-10-25 16:38       ` Stephen Satchell
2002-10-25 18:21       ` [OT] " J Sloan
2002-10-26 10:40     ` OT " Rogier Wolff
2002-10-24 10:11   ` Ville Herva
2002-10-24 11:09     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 11:55       ` Alan Cox
2002-10-24 14:40         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2002-10-24 15:36           ` Alan Cox
2002-10-24 16:46     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-24  6:04 ` David Wagner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-10-23 21:49 Hank Leininger

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