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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Voyager subarchitecture for 2.5.46
Date: 6 Nov 2002 14:36:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqc5hg$ugp$1@cesium.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0211060729210.2393-100000@home.transmeta.com

Followup to:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0211060729210.2393-100000@home.transmeta.com>
By author:    Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> 
> I disagree.
> 
> We should use the TSC everywhere (if it exists, of course), and the fact
> that two CPU's don't run synchronized shouldn't matter.
> 

If it exists, and works :-/

> It's clearly stupid in the long run to depend on the TSC synchronization.
> We should consider different CPU's to be different clock-domains, and just
> synchronize them using the primitives we already have (hey, people can use
> ntp to synchronize over networks quite well, and that's without the kind
> of synchronization primitives that we have within the same box).

Synchronizing them is nice, since it makes RDTSC usable in user
space (without nodelocking.)  If it ain't doable, then it ain't.

	-hpa
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-11-06 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-05 20:45 Voyager subarchitecture for 2.5.46 J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06  2:31 ` john stultz
2002-11-06 13:43   ` Alan Cox
2002-11-06 21:35     ` john stultz
2002-11-06 15:03   ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 15:38     ` Alan Cox
2002-11-06 16:09       ` Christer Weinigel
2002-11-06 15:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-06 16:19       ` Alan Cox
2002-11-06 16:12         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-06 16:45           ` Alan Cox
2002-11-10 16:30           ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-10 18:59             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-10 19:18               ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-10 19:31                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-10 19:42                   ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-10 19:48                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-11-10 20:02                     ` Sean Neakums
2002-11-10 20:16                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-11-10 22:11                         ` Alan Cox
2002-11-10 19:46               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-11-11 20:40                 ` john stultz
2002-11-11 20:57                   ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-11 21:36                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-11-11 21:58                     ` john stultz
2002-11-11 22:49                       ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-11 23:12                         ` john stultz
2002-11-12 12:16                     ` Pavel Machek
2002-11-11 22:08                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2002-11-06 20:07       ` john stultz
2002-11-06 22:36       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2002-11-06 19:30     ` john stultz

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