From: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: lan based kgdb
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 04:19:45 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ar4h11$g7n$1@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20021115222430.GA1877@tahoe.alcove-fr
In article <20021115222430.GA1877@tahoe.alcove-fr>,
Stelian Pop <stelian.pop@fr.alcove.com> wrote:
>
> * the USB stack seems simpler than the net stack +
> (eventualy) pcmcia + network card driver.
What drugs are you on? The USB stack is extremely complex and fragile,
and depends on a lot more working than just about any network driver out
there. We're still debugging basic USB functionality.
Yes, if you're comparing to a full TCP implementation, plain USB serial
lines may be simpler (ignoring for the moment the fact that there isn't
even a standard USB serial line protocol, and they may be going the same
way as the hardware serial lines - the way of the dodo).
But it should be possible to do a really simple UDP-packets-only thing
for kgdb. Sure, it may lose packets. Tough. Don't debug over a WAN,
and try to keep a clean direct network connection if you are worried
about it. But we want kernel printk's to be synchronous anyway, without
timeouts etc.
And I suspect you're better off losing packets (very rarely over any
normal local network) if that means that your debugger needs only
minimal support. You can always re-type.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-11-16 4:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-11-15 20:29 lan based kgdb Kallol Biswas
2002-11-15 20:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-11-15 22:06 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-11-15 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-15 21:46 ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-15 22:05 ` Kallol Biswas
2002-11-15 22:24 ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-15 22:47 ` Dmitri
2002-11-15 22:53 ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-17 5:45 ` M. R. Brown
2002-11-15 22:51 ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-15 22:59 ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-16 16:23 ` yodaiken
2002-11-16 17:21 ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-16 21:32 ` Nicholas Miell
2002-11-16 2:35 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-16 18:18 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-16 4:19 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2002-11-16 7:24 ` David Mosberger-Tang
2002-11-16 17:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-11-16 23:56 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-16 18:24 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-16 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-16 19:04 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-17 9:56 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2002-11-17 14:50 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-18 7:27 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2002-11-19 8:49 ` Amit S. Kale
2002-11-16 20:42 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-16 23:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-11-17 3:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-17 3:30 ` Larry McVoy
2002-11-17 19:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 20:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-17 20:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 20:25 ` Brad Hards
2002-11-17 21:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 21:32 ` David Lang
2002-11-17 21:48 ` Brad Hards
2002-11-17 22:00 ` David Lang
2002-11-17 23:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 21:42 ` Brad Hards
2002-11-18 1:10 ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-18 7:20 ` Miles Bader
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-15 21:44 Edwin Bland
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2002-11-17 23:52 ` Andi Kleen
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