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From: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PTRACE_GET_THREAD_AREA
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:36:37 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <atvkf5$6io$1@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20021220102431.A26923@infradead.org

In article <20021220102431.A26923@infradead.org>,
Christoph Hellwig  <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>
>I don't think ptrace is the right interface for this.  Just changed
>the get_thread_area/set_thread_area to take a new first pid_t argument.

No.  There is _no_ excuse for even looking at (much less changing)
another process' thread area unless you are tracing that process. 

Basically, there is only _one_ valid user of getting/setting the thread
area of somebody else, and that's for debugging. And debuggers use
ptrace. It's as simple as that. They use ptrace to read and set memory
contents, they use ptrace to read and set registers, and they should use
ptrace to check status bits of the process.

We do not introduce any extensions to existing system calls for
debuggers. We already have the interface, and one that does a lot better
at checking permissions in _one_ place than it would be to have magic
"can this process read/modify another process" things.

		Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-12-20 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-20  8:32 PTRACE_GET_THREAD_AREA Roland McGrath
2002-12-20 10:24 ` PTRACE_GET_THREAD_AREA Christoph Hellwig
2002-12-20 15:44   ` PTRACE_GET_THREAD_AREA Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-12-20 17:36   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2002-12-20 15:48 ` PTRACE_GET_THREAD_AREA Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-12-20 15:55   ` PTRACE_GET_THREAD_AREA Jakub Jelinek
2002-12-20 16:08     ` PTRACE_GET_THREAD_AREA Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-12-20 21:27   ` PTRACE_GET_THREAD_AREA Roland McGrath
2002-12-20 17:42 ` PTRACE_GET_THREAD_AREA Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13  3:51   ` PTRACE_GET_THREAD_AREA Roland McGrath
2003-01-13  4:03     ` PTRACE_GET_THREAD_AREA Linus Torvalds
2003-01-13  5:29       ` PTRACE_GET_THREAD_AREA Roland McGrath
     [not found] <3E22B2F0.31397.E719685@localhost>
2003-01-14  3:15 ` PTRACE_GET_THREAD_AREA Roland McGrath

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