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From: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] TCP Zero Copy for mmapped files
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:41:39 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <av2t93$14v$1@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1041555419.24901.86.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk

In article <1041555419.24901.86.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>,
Alan Cox  <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
>On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 23:16, David S. Miller wrote:    
>> 
>> With sendfile() all of this goes straight to the page cache directly
>> without a VMA lookup.
>
>With a nasty unpleasant splat the moment you do modification on the
>content at all. For static objects sendfile is certainly superior,

Oh, the "unpleasant splat" happens with the mmap approach too, there's
no avoiding it. It can happen with a regular "read()" loop too (if the
read happens at the wrong time).

Both mmap and sendfile have the issue that the "splat" can happen every
time, while a read() into a private area means that the splat can only
happen the first time the web server caches the content.  But the read
into a private area is also obviously the worst one from a performance
standpoint. 

There are two ways to avoid the splat:
 - lock the file some way before reading/writing to it.
 - do all updates to a temp-file, and move the temp-file to the new location.

Those two approaches will fix the "splat" problem _regardless_ of what
IO mechanism you use. With that in mind, sendfile() is clearly the one
that performs best by far, so..

		Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-01-03  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-30  1:09 [PATCH] TCP Zero Copy for mmapped files Thomas Ogrisegg
2002-12-30  1:29 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-02  6:37   ` David S. Miller
2003-01-02 22:12     ` Thomas Ogrisegg
2003-01-02 22:28       ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-02 23:20         ` Alan Cox
2003-01-02 23:16           ` David S. Miller
2003-01-03  0:56             ` Alan Cox
2003-01-03  2:40               ` David S. Miller
2003-01-03  2:41               ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2003-01-02 23:13       ` David S. Miller
2003-01-03  0:45         ` Thomas Ogrisegg
2003-01-03  1:01           ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-03  1:59             ` Alan Cox
2003-01-06 14:36               ` Gianni Tedesco
2003-01-06 23:29                 ` David S. Miller
2003-01-03  1:56           ` Alan Cox
2003-01-03  1:27             ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-03  2:42           ` David S. Miller

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