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From: Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Alejandro Colomar <alx+linux-hardening@kernel.org>,
	 Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	 Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
	driver-core@lists.linux.dev,  linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	 Brendan Jackman <brendan.jackman@linux.dev>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] devres: Provide kmalloc_obj*-style API for devm_kmalloc
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 10:22:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <avYBdaCYclTyX9pX@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whAF3brA9Wrcf3KDhNn_653zhUsoqe1MSneYJWtS5505Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Thu, Nov 12, 2026 at 09:23:18AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2026 at 09:09, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > One thing Justin was poking at was adding a "strict" mode to typedef
> 
> Honestly, the sparse setup is superior. It does that 'strict' thing
> (except it calls it 'nocast') _and_ it has 'bitwise' that is a nocast
> that also disallows non-bit type checks (which is *very* useful for
> things like "this is a big-endian value: you can only do bitwise
> checks against other big-endian values).


Cool. I wasn't super familiar with how sparse handled `nocast` and
`bitwise` but your insights led me to look into it deeper. I'll take
these learnings over to clang when I get around to implementing strict
types :)

> 
> So the compiler addition may be worth it, but  even the "poking at" is
> weaker than what sparse already does.

Right but I suppose the benefit is that compiler-enforced things are
caught vastly more often than sparse-enforced things. Plus, like I said
above, maybe I can aim to reach relative feature parity with sparse's
own analysis on this type of stuff.

FYI, there's some prior design with `strong` typedefs [1] in the form of
a wg14 proposal. I've also been keeping a close eye on that stuff as it
develops because it's essentially strict/distinct types with a different
name.

[1]: https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n3320.htm

Justin

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-12 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-14 22:32 [PATCH 0/2] devres: Provide kmalloc_obj*-style API for devm_kmalloc Kees Cook
2026-09-14 22:32 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: Move default_gfp() into gfp_types.h Kees Cook
2026-09-15  2:13   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-15  6:56   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-06 15:42   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-14 22:32 ` [PATCH 2/2] devres: Provide kmalloc_obj*-style API for devm_kmalloc Kees Cook
2026-10-05 21:35   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-06  0:52     ` Kees Cook
2026-10-06 21:55   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-11-12  0:40   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-11-12 10:12     ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-12 16:34       ` Linus Torvalds
2026-11-12 17:09         ` Kees Cook
2026-11-12 17:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2026-11-12 18:22             ` Justin Stitt [this message]
2026-11-12 17:32         ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-12 17:47           ` Linus Torvalds

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