Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] hwrng: add Rockchip SoC hwrng driver

[Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>]

Hello Heiko,

On 2024-06-22 22:26, Heiko Stübner wrote:
> Am Samstag, 22. Juni 2024, 12:29:33 CEST schrieb Dragan Simic:
>> On 2024-06-22 00:16, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
>> > On 6/21/24 20:13, Dragan Simic wrote:
>> >> On 2024-06-21 11:57, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> >>> On 21/06/2024 03:25, Daniel Golle wrote:
>> >>>> From: Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>
>> >>
>> >> [snip]
>> >>
>> >>>> +    pm_runtime_set_autosuspend_delay(dev,
>> >>>> RK_RNG_AUTOSUSPEND_DELAY);
>> >>>> +    pm_runtime_use_autosuspend(dev);
>> >>>> +    pm_runtime_enable(dev);
>> >>>> +
>> >>>> +    ret = devm_hwrng_register(dev, &rk_rng->rng);
>> >>>> +    if (ret)
>> >>>> +        return dev_err_probe(&pdev->dev, ret, "Failed to register
>> >>>> Rockchip hwrng\n");
>> >>>> +
>> >>>> +    dev_info(&pdev->dev, "Registered Rockchip hwrng\n");
>> >>>
>> >>> Drop, driver should be silent on success.
>> >>
>> >> I respectfully disagree.  Many drivers print a single line upon
>> >> successful probing, which I find very useful.  In this particular
>> >> case, it's even more useful, because some people may be concerned
>> >> about the use of hardware TRNGs, so we should actually make sure
>> >> to announce it.
>> >
>> > I agree to Krzysztof here. From the POV of a driver author, your own
>> > driver is very important and while you write it, it really interests
>> > *you* if the driver is successfully probed. However from a system
>> > perspective these are annoying: There are easily >50 devices[1] on a
>> > system, if all of these print a message in probe, you have little
>> > chance
>> > to see the relevant messages. Even if every driver author thinks their
>> > work is a special snow flake that is worth announcing, in practice
>> > users
>> > only care about your driver if there is a problem. Additionally each
>> > message takes time and so delays the boot process. Additionally each
>> > message takes place in the printk ring buffer and so edges out earlier
>> > messages that might be more important.
>> 
>> Well, I don't find those messages annoying, for the drivers I've had
>> nothing to do with.  Also, in my experience, 99.9% of users don't care
>> about the kernel messages at all, be it everything hunky-dory, or be
>> it something really wrong somewhere.
>> 
>> > So +1 for dropping the dev_info() or at least using dev_debug() for it.
> 
> Just for 2ct ... I'm also in the don't print too much camp ;-) .
> When parsing kernel logs to see where things fail, messages just
> telling me about sucesses make things more difficult.
> 
> So really this message should be dropped or at least as Uwe suggests
> made a dev_dbg.

As a note, "dmesg --level=err,warn", for example, is rather useful
when it comes to filtering the kernel messages to see only those that
are signs of a trouble.