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From: Yijie Yang <quic_yijiyang@quicinc.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Support tuning the RX sampling swap of the MAC.
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 18:43:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b035db82-7203-4e30-8457-caa4fa1b4e97@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59590ff5-676a-4cd6-a951-96f66972aad4@lunn.ch>



On 2024-12-27 01:14, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 11:06:48AM +0800, Yijie Yang wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2024-12-26 01:49, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 06:04:44PM +0800, Yijie Yang wrote:
>>>> The Ethernet MAC requires precise sampling times at Rx, but signals on the
>>>> Rx side after transmission on the board may vary due to different hardware
>>>> layouts. The RGMII_CONFIG2_RX_PROG_SWAP can be used to switch the sampling
>>>> occasion between the rising edge and falling edge of the clock to meet the
>>>> sampling requirements.
>>>
>>> The RGMII specification says that RD[3:0] pins are sampled on the
>>> rising edge for bits 3:0 and falling edge for bits 7:4.
>>>
>>> Given this is part of the standard, why would you want to do anything
>>> else?
>>>
>>> Is this maybe another symptom of having the RGMII delays messed up?
>>>
>>> Anyway, i don't see a need for this property, unless you are working
>>> with a PHY which breaks the RGMII standard, and has its clock
>>> reversed?
>>
>> Please correct me if there are any errors. As described in the Intel and TI
>> design guidelines, Dual Data Rate (DDR), which samples at both edges of the
>> clock, is primarily used for 1Gbps speeds. For 100Mbps and 10Mbps speeds,
>> Single Data Rate (SDR), which samples at the rising edge of the clock, is
>> typically adopted.
> 
> If it is typically adopted, why do you need to support falling edge?
> Because we can is not a good reason. Do you have a board with a PHY
> which requires falling edge for some reason?

It's an RX-side feature and is unrelated to the PHY. As I mentioned in 
another email, it's designed to introduce a half-clock cycle delay for 
correct sampling in the IO Macro.

> 
> 	Andrew
> 

-- 
Best Regards,
Yijie


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-08 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-25 10:04 [PATCH 0/3] Support tuning the RX sampling swap of the MAC Yijie Yang
2024-12-25 10:04 ` [PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: net: stmmac: Tune rx sampling occasion Yijie Yang
2024-12-25 10:04 ` [PATCH 2/3] net: stmmac: qcom-ethqos: Enable RX programmable swap on qcs615 Yijie Yang
2024-12-25 11:37   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-12-26  2:29     ` Yijie Yang
2024-12-26 17:21       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-08  9:42         ` Yijie Yang
2025-01-08 13:29           ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-20  9:07             ` Yijie Yang
2025-01-20 16:49               ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-21  7:13                 ` Yijie Yang
2025-01-21 14:34                   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-12-27  7:03       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-01-08 10:33         ` Yijie Yang
2025-01-13 11:26           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-01-14  1:51             ` Yijie Yang
2024-12-25 10:04 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm64: dts: qcom: qcs615-ride: Enable RX programmable swap on qcs615-ride Yijie Yang
2024-12-25 17:38   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-12-26  1:23     ` Yijie Yang
2024-12-25 17:49 ` [PATCH 0/3] Support tuning the RX sampling swap of the MAC Andrew Lunn
2024-12-26  3:06   ` Yijie Yang
2024-12-26 17:14     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-08 10:43       ` Yijie Yang [this message]
2024-12-27 15:18 ` Rob Herring (Arm)

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