Re: openbkweb-0.0

["Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hps@intermeta.de>]

Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com> writes:

>In the US, at least, all the deals I've been able to find cap the 
>bandwidth at ~100Kbit/sec average rate.  

Then it's not a T1. It's a crippled thing able to carry a meagre 35
gigs per month with throttled bandwith and just 1.5 MBits peak rate.
No wonder your VoIP sounds like from a B-movie. :-)

	Regards
		Henning

>On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 09:18:56PM +0100, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
>> Larry says that he hosts bkbits.net on a T1 which is shared with
>> (probably) the IP traffic of bitkeeper.com and his VoIP. 
>> 
>> A fully loaded T1 can carry about 1/2 a TB per month traffic. This costs
>> you at most (AT MOST!) about 350 Euros per month (e.g. www.odn.de) for
>> a 2,3 Mbit SDSL line, which carries even 1,5 times the traffic of a T1).
>> 
>> Rack housing with a moderate traffic volume (e.g. enough for most
>> service needs) cost you between 29 Euros for a dedicated server with 60
>> Gigs (www.hetzner.de) to 25,90 euros for a shared hosting with a gig of
>> disc space and unlimited traffic (www.hosteurope.de, Hostnet product).
>> 
>> All of the cited ISPs claim to have multi-GB uplinks to the various
>> german an international peering points.  I wouldn't consider that a
>> "garden hose".
>> 
>> Larry claimed a $15k bill for his T1. This is about 1200$ per months.
>> You can get three flat 2.3 MBit SDSL lines for that. Or a dedicated
>> server with about a TB of traffic in a housing center.
>> 
>> 	Regards
>> 		Henning
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 13:03, Andrew Walrond wrote:
>> > Alan Cox wrote:
>> >  >
>> >  > Unlimited bandwidth at low bitrate is cheap. If you want 100Mbit then boy
>> >  > it gets pricy. Its the different between "all you get" and "you get xyz"
>> >  >
>> > 
>> > Me thinks you miss my point :)
>> > 
>> > In the context of Larry saying "It costs $x,000 dollars for me to 
>> > provide the bandwidth" and this guy saying "But you can get all you want 
>> > for 50Euros" leads me to suspect that he believes he is sat at the end 
>> > of an 8m main bore when infact he has at best a garden hose....
>> > 
>> > Andrew
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