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From: miquels@cistron-office.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] procfs/procps threading performance speedup, 2.5.62
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:47:15 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b330qj$sri$1@news.cistron.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0302201656030.30000-100000@localhost.localdomain

In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302201656030.30000-100000@localhost.localdomain>,
Ingo Molnar  <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>the fix for this is two-fold. First, it must be possible for procps to
>separate 'threads' from 'processes' without having to go into 16 thousand
>directories. I solved this by prefixing 'threads' (ie. non-group-leader
>threads) with a dot ('.') character in the /proc listing:

Why not put threads belonging to a thread group into /proc/17072/threads ?

> $ ls -a /proc

I'm seeing 17072 as a group-leader and the 'threads' as .17073 etc.
When you put all 'threads' into /proc/17072/threads, you'd get
/proc/17072/threads/17072, /proc/17072/threads/17073, etc.
/proc/17072 would show stats for the whole threads group, while
/proc/17072/threads/17072 would show stats for just that thread.

>the .17073 ... .17082 entries belong to the thread-group 17072.

Yuck ;(

>The key here is for procps to be able to parse threads without having to
>call into the kernel 16K times. The dot-approach also has the added
>benefit of 'hiding' threads in the default 'ls /proc' listing.

What is against /proc/<pid>/threads ?

>the other change needed was the ability to read comulative CPU usage
>statistics from the thread group leader. I've introduced 4 new fields in
>/proc/PID/stat for that purpose, the kernel keeps those uptodate across
>fork/exit and in the timer interrupt - it's very low-overhead.

That would also be solved with /proc/<pid> and /proc/<pid>/threads/<thread>

>another advantage of this approach is that old procps is fully compatible
>with the new kernel, and new procps is fully compatible with old kernels.  

That would also be the case with /proc/<pid>/threads

Mike.
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-20 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-20 16:33 [patch] procfs/procps threading performance speedup, 2.5.62 Ingo Molnar
2003-02-20 16:47 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg [this message]
2003-02-20 16:55   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-02-20 17:00 ` Nikita Danilov
2003-02-20 17:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-20 17:14   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-02-20 17:22     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-21  7:38       ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-02-20 17:23     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-02-22 20:52       ` Albert Cahalan
2003-02-22 21:55         ` Andrew Morton
2003-02-22 23:04           ` Albert Cahalan
2003-02-23 18:49         ` Ingo Molnar
2003-02-23 21:51           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2003-02-24  9:28             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-02-24 11:12               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2003-02-24 11:26                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-02-24 12:29                   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2003-02-24 12:41                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-02-24 12:45                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-02-24 12:52                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-02-24  9:38             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-02-24 12:13               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2003-02-20 17:28     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-02-20 17:30       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-02-20 17:48       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-20 17:20   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-02-20 19:13     ` Daniel Jacobowitz

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