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From: Jinchao Wang <wangjinchao600@gmail.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Joel Granados <joel.granados@kernel.org>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Sravan Kumar Gundu <sravankumarlpu@gmail.com>,
	Ryo Takakura <takakura@valinux.co.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] panic: call hardlockup_detector_perf_stop in panic
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:35:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b627609f-e5a3-4f7b-8ff9-fa40faf97d86@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aKWh2R0ZVZ7nnLiw@pathway.suse.cz>

On 8/20/25 18:22, Petr Mladek wrote:
> Adding Peter Zijlstra into Cc.
> 
> The nested panic() should return. But panic() was never supposed to
> return. It seems that it is not marked as noreturn but I am not sure
> whether some tricks are not hidden somewhere, in objtool, or...
> 
> On Wed 2025-08-20 14:22:52, Jinchao Wang wrote:
>> On 8/19/25 23:01, Petr Mladek wrote:
>>> On Wed 2025-07-30 11:06:33, Wang Jinchao wrote:
>>>> When a panic happens, it blocks the cpu, which may
>>>> trigger the hardlockup detector if some dump is slow.
>>>> So call hardlockup_detector_perf_stop() to disable
>>>> hardlockup dector.
>>>
>>> Could you please provide more details, especially the log showing
>>> the problem?
>>
>> Here's what happened: I configured the kernel to use efi-pstore for kdump
>> logging while enabling the perf hard lockup detector (NMI). Perhaps the
>> efi-pstore was slow and there were too many logs. When the first panic was
>> triggered, the pstore dump callback in kmsg_dump()->dumper->dump() took a
>> long time, which triggered the NMI watchdog. Then emergency_restart()
>> triggered the machine restart before the efi-pstore operation finished.
>> The function call flow looked like this:
>>
>> ```c
>> real panic() {
>> 	kmsg_dump() {
>> 		...
>> 		pstore_dump() {
>> 			start_dump();
>> 			... // long time operation triggers NMI watchdog
>> 			nmi panic() {
>> 				...
>> 				emergency_restart(); //pstore unfinished
>> 			}
>> 			...
>> 			finish_dump(); // never reached
>> 		}
>> 	}
>> }
>> ```
>>
>> This created a nested panic situation where the second panic interrupted
>> the crash dump process, causing the loss of the original panic information.
> 
> I believe that we should prevent the nested panic() in the first
> place. There already is the following code:
> 
> void vpanic(const char *fmt, va_list args)
> {
> [...]
> 	 * Only one CPU is allowed to execute the panic code from here. For
> 	 * multiple parallel invocations of panic, all other CPUs either
> 	 * stop themself or will wait until they are stopped by the 1st CPU
> 	 * with smp_send_stop().
> 	 *
> 	 * cmpxchg success means this is the 1st CPU which comes here,
> 	 * so go ahead.
> 	 * `old_cpu == this_cpu' means we came from nmi_panic() which sets
> 	 * panic_cpu to this CPU.  In this case, this is also the 1st CPU.
> 	 */
> 	old_cpu = PANIC_CPU_INVALID;
> 	this_cpu = raw_smp_processor_id();
> 
> 	/* atomic_try_cmpxchg updates old_cpu on failure */
> 	if (atomic_try_cmpxchg(&panic_cpu, &old_cpu, this_cpu)) {
> 		/* go ahead */
> 	} else if (old_cpu != this_cpu)
> 		panic_smp_self_stop();
> 
> 
> We should improve it to detect nested panic() call as well,
> something like:
> 
> 	this_cpu = raw_smp_processor_id();
> 	/* Bail out in a nested panic(). Let the outer one finish the job. */
> 	if (this_cpu == atomic_read(&panic_cpu))
> 		return;
> 
> 	/* atomic_try_cmpxchg updates old_cpu on failure */
> 	old_cpu = PANIC_CPU_INVALID;
> 	if (atomic_try_cmpxchg(&panic_cpu, &old_cpu, this_cpu)) {
> 		/* go ahead */
> 	} else if (old_cpu != this_cpu)
> 		panic_smp_self_stop();
> 
Agree with you.
Please see my patchset of "panic: introduce panic status function family"
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250820091702.512524-1-wangjinchao600@gmail.com/

For this nested panic problem, see patch 9.

> 
>>> That said, it might make sense to disable the hardlockup
>>> detector during panic. But I do not like the proposed way,
>>> see below.
>>>
>>>> --- a/kernel/panic.c
>>>> +++ b/kernel/panic.c
>>>> @@ -339,6 +339,7 @@ void panic(const char *fmt, ...)
>>>>    	 */
>>>>    	local_irq_disable();
>>>>    	preempt_disable_notrace();
>>>> +	hardlockup_detector_perf_stop();
>>>
>>> Anyway, it does not look safe. panic() might be called in any context,
>>> including NMI, and I see:
>>>
>>>    + hardlockup_detector_perf_stop()
>>>      + perf_event_disable()
>>>        + perf_event_ctx_lock()
>>>          + mutex_lock_nested()
>>>
>>> This might cause deadlock when called in NMI, definitely.
>>>
>>> Alternative:
>>>
>>> A conservative approach would be to update watchdog_hardlockup_check()
>>> so that it does nothing when panic_in_progress() returns true. It
>>> would even work for both hardlockup detectors implementation.
>> Yes, I think it is a better solution.
>> I didn't find panic_in_progress() but found hardlockup_detector_perf_stop()
>> available instead :)
>> I will send another patch.
> 
> OK.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Petr


-- 
Best regards,
Jinchao

      reply	other threads:[~2025-08-21  1:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-30  3:06 [PATCH] panic: call hardlockup_detector_perf_stop in panic Wang Jinchao
2025-08-19 15:01 ` Petr Mladek
2025-08-20  6:22   ` Jinchao Wang
2025-08-20 10:22     ` Petr Mladek
2025-08-21  1:35       ` Jinchao Wang [this message]

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