From: yangxingui <yangxingui@huawei.com>
To: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>, <yanaijie@huawei.com>,
<jejb@linux.ibm.com>, <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<linuxarm@huawei.com>, <liyihang9@h-partners.com>,
<liuyonglong@huawei.com>, <kangfenglong@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] scsi: libsas: handle linkrate change in sas_rediscover_dev
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 16:58:47 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ba3629cb-e193-5892-1f47-7e675931f744@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c4e4c99f-a13c-4e28-8650-48be1f96d7cf@oracle.com>
On 2026/5/14 17:35, John Garry wrote:
> On 13/05/2026 09:14, yangxingui wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2026/5/13 15:29, John Garry wrote:
>>> On 13/05/2026 03:16, Xingui Yang wrote:
>>>> When a device attached to an expander phy experiences a linkrate change
>>>> (e.g., due to cable reconnection or negotiation), the current code in
>>>> sas_rediscover_dev() treats it as "broadcast flutter" and takes no
>>>> action
>>>> if the SAS address and device type remain unchanged.
>>>
>>> Can sas_rediscover_dev() check the linkrate (vs expected) to
>>> understand that this flutter has renegotiated the linkrate and then
>>> consider it not just a flutter?
>>
>> Hi, John
>> Theoretically, it is possible. As early as 2019, Jason attempted to
>> propose the solution you mentioned. He conducted a relatively
>> comprehensive assessment for flutter, including scenarios where the
>> SAS address changes or the ATA ID changes. However, in actual use,
>> such situations almost never occur unless there is an extremely short
>> time window during which the drive is swapped or a new SATA drive is
>> replaced. Because this solution is associated with other modifications
>> and may have significant impacts, it has not been adopted.
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lore.kernel.org/linux-
>> scsi/20190130082412.9357-6-yanaijie@huawei.com/__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!
>> K7CIIOxMVXErIMxcZlvm10YX3EVqp0rhSbh_ARyqnaFDmtaqqJtoLTJQui0-
>> Ox_URh97f8oyREG8htBVo2aC3Ew$
>> Currently, scenarios involving changes in linkrate are relatively more
>> common, and such situations can be easily reproduced by manually
>> adjusting the linkrate by sysfs. Therefore, a less impactful
>> synchronous update solution was adopted.
>>
>
> What Jason did was to check if same device for flutter, which is not
> really the same thing as what you want.
>
> I just don't like these special case callbacks which you propose, as
> they seem fragile and too specialized.
>
> Is it possible to just check the linkrate and mark the device as gone
> and rediscover when this flutter occurs occurs?
Hi, John.
I have updated a new version according to your suggestions.
Thanks,
Xingui
.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-15 8:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-13 2:16 [PATCH v2 0/3] scsi: libsas: handle linkrate change in sas_rediscover_dev Xingui Yang
2026-05-13 2:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] scsi: libsas: refactor sas_ex_to_ata() using new helper sas_ex_to_dev() Xingui Yang
2026-05-13 6:18 ` Jason Yan
2026-05-13 2:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] scsi: libsas: add lldd_dev_info_update callback for device info changes Xingui Yang
2026-05-13 6:22 ` Jason Yan
2026-05-13 2:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] scsi: hisi_sas: add support for dev info update notification Xingui Yang
2026-05-13 6:23 ` Jason Yan
2026-05-13 7:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] scsi: libsas: handle linkrate change in sas_rediscover_dev John Garry
2026-05-13 8:14 ` yangxingui
2026-05-14 9:35 ` John Garry
2026-05-14 13:00 ` yangxingui
2026-05-15 8:58 ` yangxingui [this message]
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