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From: yangxingui <yangxingui@huawei.com>
To: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>, <yanaijie@huawei.com>,
	<jejb@linux.ibm.com>, <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linuxarm@huawei.com>, <liyihang9@h-partners.com>,
	<liuyonglong@huawei.com>, <kangfenglong@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] scsi: libsas: handle linkrate change in sas_rediscover_dev
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 16:58:47 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ba3629cb-e193-5892-1f47-7e675931f744@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c4e4c99f-a13c-4e28-8650-48be1f96d7cf@oracle.com>



On 2026/5/14 17:35, John Garry wrote:
> On 13/05/2026 09:14, yangxingui wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2026/5/13 15:29, John Garry wrote:
>>> On 13/05/2026 03:16, Xingui Yang wrote:
>>>> When a device attached to an expander phy experiences a linkrate change
>>>> (e.g., due to cable reconnection or negotiation), the current code in
>>>> sas_rediscover_dev() treats it as "broadcast flutter" and takes no 
>>>> action
>>>> if the SAS address and device type remain unchanged.
>>>
>>> Can sas_rediscover_dev() check the linkrate (vs expected) to 
>>> understand that this flutter has renegotiated the linkrate and then 
>>> consider it not just a flutter?
>>
>> Hi, John
>> Theoretically, it is possible. As early as 2019, Jason attempted to 
>> propose the solution you mentioned. He conducted a relatively 
>> comprehensive assessment for flutter, including scenarios where the 
>> SAS address changes or the ATA ID changes. However, in actual use, 
>> such situations almost never occur unless there is an extremely short 
>> time window during which the drive is swapped or a new SATA drive is 
>> replaced. Because this solution is associated with other modifications 
>> and may have significant impacts, it has not been adopted.
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lore.kernel.org/linux- 
>> scsi/20190130082412.9357-6-yanaijie@huawei.com/__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ! 
>> K7CIIOxMVXErIMxcZlvm10YX3EVqp0rhSbh_ARyqnaFDmtaqqJtoLTJQui0- 
>> Ox_URh97f8oyREG8htBVo2aC3Ew$
>> Currently, scenarios involving changes in linkrate are relatively more 
>> common, and such situations can be easily reproduced by manually 
>> adjusting the linkrate by sysfs. Therefore, a less impactful 
>> synchronous update solution was adopted.
>>
> 
> What Jason did was to check if same device for flutter, which is not 
> really the same thing as what you want.
> 
> I just don't like these special case callbacks which you propose, as 
> they seem fragile and too specialized.
> 
> Is it possible to just check the linkrate and mark the device as gone 
> and rediscover when this flutter occurs occurs?

Hi, John.
I have updated a new version according to your suggestions.

Thanks,
Xingui
.


      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-15  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-13  2:16 [PATCH v2 0/3] scsi: libsas: handle linkrate change in sas_rediscover_dev Xingui Yang
2026-05-13  2:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] scsi: libsas: refactor sas_ex_to_ata() using new helper sas_ex_to_dev() Xingui Yang
2026-05-13  6:18   ` Jason Yan
2026-05-13  2:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] scsi: libsas: add lldd_dev_info_update callback for device info changes Xingui Yang
2026-05-13  6:22   ` Jason Yan
2026-05-13  2:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] scsi: hisi_sas: add support for dev info update notification Xingui Yang
2026-05-13  6:23   ` Jason Yan
2026-05-13  7:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] scsi: libsas: handle linkrate change in sas_rediscover_dev John Garry
2026-05-13  8:14   ` yangxingui
2026-05-14  9:35     ` John Garry
2026-05-14 13:00       ` yangxingui
2026-05-15  8:58       ` yangxingui [this message]

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