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From: Smita Koralahalli <Smita.KoralahalliChannabasappa@amd.com>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
Cc: linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	oohall@gmail.com, Mahesh J Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.ibm.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan 
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	Yazen Ghannam <yazen.ghannam@amd.com>,
	Fontenot Nathan <Nathan.Fontenot@amd.com>,
	Jay Cornwall <Jay.Cornwall@amd.com>,
	Felix Kuehling <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] PCI: pciehp: Clear the optional capabilities in DEVCTL2 on a hot-plug
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:29:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ba93f227-e46d-dbd0-1082-9396853e2fc4@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230628132526.GA14276@wunner.de>

On 6/28/2023 6:25 AM, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 10:38:54AM -0700, Smita Koralahalli wrote:
>> Okay, I see there are no objections except for Bjorn/Jay's comments on
>>
>> "But there could be devices where AtomicOps are nominally supported but
>> untested or broken.."
>>
>> Would this be an issue?
> 
> I think you said that BIOS enables AtomicOps on certain AMD machines?
> Or did that observation only apply to 10 Bit tags?

Yes, that observation right now applies only to 10 bit tags.

> 
> If BIOS does enable AtomicOps, it would be interesting to know which
> logic BIOS follows, i.e. how does it determine whether to set
> AtomicOp Requester Enable on Endpoints?

I agree this is a very good thing to know. I have followed up with the 
BIOS team to get some pointers on this. I will get back to you soon.

> 
> It would also be interesting to know how far that BIOS has proliferated,
> i.e. how much experience with various Endpoint devices exists in the
> real world.  If it turns out that BIOS has enabled the feature for
> years on a wide range of Endpoints without any issues, I think
> that would render concerns mute that enabling it in the kernel
> might cause regressions.
> 
> I don't know why the spec says that "discovery of AtomicOp Requester
> capabilities is outside the scope of this specification".  I imagine
> it would be possible to set AtomicOp Requester Enable, then read it
> to determine whether the bit is now indeed 1 or hard-wired to 0.
> In the latter case, AtomicOp Requester capabilities can be assumed
> to be absent.  So that would be a way to make do without any other
> specific discovery of AtomicOp Requester capabilities.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Lukas


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-01  6:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-21 18:51 [PATCH v3 0/2] PCI: pciehp: Add support for native AER and DPC handling on async remove Smita Koralahalli
2023-06-21 18:51 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] PCI: pciehp: Add support for async hotplug with native AER and DPC/EDR Smita Koralahalli
2023-06-22  9:04   ` Lukas Wunner
2023-06-22 21:02     ` Smita Koralahalli
2023-06-22 21:22       ` Lukas Wunner
2023-06-22 23:22   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2023-06-27 17:48     ` Smita Koralahalli
2023-06-28 13:29       ` Lukas Wunner
2023-06-21 18:51 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] PCI: pciehp: Clear the optional capabilities in DEVCTL2 on a hot-plug Smita Koralahalli
2023-06-22  6:31   ` Lukas Wunner
2023-06-22 10:04     ` Lukas Wunner
2023-06-22 21:02     ` Smita Koralahalli
2023-06-22 21:42       ` Lukas Wunner
2023-06-23  3:59         ` Felix Kuehling
2023-06-23  6:06           ` Lukas Wunner
2023-06-23 13:12         ` Jay Cornwall
2023-06-27 17:38         ` Smita Koralahalli
2023-06-28 13:25           ` Lukas Wunner
2023-07-01  6:29             ` Smita Koralahalli [this message]
2023-08-15 21:22             ` Smita Koralahalli

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