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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Recent changes to sysctl.h breaks glibc
Date: 19 May 2003 14:14:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <babheo$s9r$1@cesium.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20030519105152.GD8978@holomorphy.com

Followup to:  <20030519105152.GD8978@holomorphy.com>
By author:    William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> 
> IIRC you're supposed to use some sort of sanitized copy, not the things
> directly. IMHO the current state of affairs sucks as there is no
> standard set of ABI headers, but grabbing them right out of the kernel
> is definitely not the way to go.
> 

This "cure" sucks worse than the disease.  Now you're putting it onto
everyone who maintains userspace to do the same repetitive task of
"sanitizing" this.  Especially for things this trivial, this is a
ridiculous concept.

For 2.7, getting real exportable ABI headers is so bloody necessary
it's not even funny.  However, for 2.5, breaking things randomly is
not the way to go.

	-hpa
-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-19 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-18 20:21 Recent changes to sysctl.h breaks glibc Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-18 20:49 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-18 21:12   ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19  5:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 10:43       ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 10:51         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 11:14           ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 11:21             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 11:33             ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 11:43             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 12:52               ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 21:14           ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2003-05-19 22:44             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 22:46               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:56                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 23:04                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  6:06                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 11:45         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 12:56           ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 13:06             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 16:56               ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-05-19 17:41                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-19 21:16                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:18                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 22:31                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:20                         ` Alan Cox
2003-05-19 23:28                           ` Andries Brouwer
2003-05-20 10:35                             ` Lionel Elie Mamane
2003-05-19 23:30                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 23:05                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 23:17                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 23:55                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20  0:24                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-20  0:40                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20  1:11                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-20 22:10                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  0:30                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  0:54                             ` David Woodhouse
2003-05-20  1:09                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  1:42                                 ` Miles Bader
2003-05-20  4:12                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20  4:24                                     ` Miles Bader
2003-05-20  6:37                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20  7:24                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 19:04                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20  7:44                               ` Riley Williams
2003-05-20 14:01                                 ` Chris Friesen
2003-05-20 17:06                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-21  4:39                                     ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-21  5:38                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-21  5:58                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 18:05               ` David Ford
2003-05-19 17:44                 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-20  2:21                   ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:24                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 17:59           ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:06             ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 18:23               ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:34                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 19:43                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 21:21                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 21:35               ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-05-19 21:37                 ` Arjan van de Ven
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-19 19:54 Mudama, Eric
2003-05-19 20:36 ` Martin Schlemmer

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