From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devel@laptop.org,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, David Kahn <dmk@flex.com>,
Mitch Bradley <wmb@firmworks.com>,
jg@laptop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Open Firmware device tree virtual filesystem
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:28:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bb0d56f649449edb8b5cc0e1c12ede29@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1167768735.6165.68.camel@localhost.localdomain>
>> Not single thread -- but a "global OF lock" yes. Not that
>> it matters too much, (almost) all property accesses are init
>> time anyway (which is effectively single threaded).
>
> Not that true anymore. A lot of driver probe is being threaded
> nowadays,
> either bcs of the new multithread probing bits, or because they get
> loaded by userland from some initramfs etc..
The kernel doesn't care if one CPU is in OF land while the others
are doing other stuff -- well you have to make sure the OF won't
try to use a hardware device at the same time as the kernel, true.
>>> Finally, you can't have something as simple as powerpc's
>>> get_property()
>>> (that just returns a pointer to the property content) with direct OF
>>> access unless you use some magic static buffer or some crap around
>>> those
>>> lines, or add passing of a buffer in, so from a driver pointer of
>>> view,
>>> the interface provided by powerpc/sparc is nicer.
>>
>> But since you have a _put() function anyway, for your reference
>> counting, having magic (automatically allocated, not static of
>> course) buffers works just fine.
>
> You can maybe create an in-memory cache of all properties in a node
> from
> whatever function that returns a node pointer and dispose of them on
> _put(), that would allow to keep the get_property semantics as-is with
> a
> "live" tree, but I still don't see the point
I'm a bit concerned about the 100kB or so of data duplication
(on a *quite big* device tree), and the extra code you need
(all changes have to be done to both tree copies). Maybe
I shouldn't be worried; still, it's obviously not a great
idea to *require* any arch to get and keep a full copy of
the tree -- it's wasteful and unnecessary.
Segher
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-02 21:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-31 1:38 [PATCH] Open Firmware device tree virtual filesystem Mitch Bradley
2006-12-31 5:19 ` David Miller
2006-12-31 9:36 ` Mitch Bradley
2006-12-31 9:52 ` David Miller
2006-12-31 10:11 ` David Kahn
2006-12-31 10:49 ` David Miller
2006-12-31 11:47 ` Rene Rebe
2006-12-31 11:53 ` David Kahn
2007-01-01 3:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 3:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 18:43 ` Richard Smith
2006-12-31 15:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-12-31 20:46 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 3:37 ` David Kahn
2007-01-01 8:54 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 4:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 12:28 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01 3:33 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01 8:57 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 17:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01 23:08 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 23:52 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 3:31 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 11:26 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 1:40 ` David Kahn
2007-01-02 3:36 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 18:10 ` Mitch Bradley
2007-01-01 19:21 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-02 4:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 4:30 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 4:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 5:01 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 5:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 5:44 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 12:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 11:03 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 3:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 12:22 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 20:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 21:28 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-01-02 21:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 21:40 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 22:10 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 22:05 ` David Miller
2007-01-03 0:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 4:34 ` David Miller
2007-01-03 15:23 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 2:15 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 3:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 3:49 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 11:45 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 20:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-31 13:24 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-12-31 18:55 ` Mitch Bradley
2006-12-31 14:12 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-31 20:45 ` David Miller
2006-12-31 21:30 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-02 3:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 11:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 13:22 ` Stefan Reinauer
2007-01-02 20:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 20:11 ` Mitch Bradley
2007-01-02 20:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-02 21:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 21:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-03 0:35 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 0:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-03 1:14 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 4:35 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 22:07 ` David Miller
2007-01-03 0:52 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 1:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-03 4:38 ` David Miller
2007-01-03 5:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-03 15:59 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 15:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-03 4:34 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 21:15 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-02 21:59 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 3:40 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-01 4:21 ` Segher Boessenkool
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-11 17:39 ron minnich
2007-01-11 17:53 ` Mitch Bradley
2007-01-11 17:55 ` ron minnich
2007-01-11 18:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-11 18:20 ` Stefan Reinauer
2007-01-11 18:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-11 19:12 ` ron minnich
2007-01-11 19:11 ` ron minnich
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