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From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Chenyi Qiang <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] KVM: VMX: Enable Notify VM exit
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:07:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bcc83b3d-31fe-949a-6bbf-4615bb982f0c@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7859e03f-10fa-dbc2-ed3c-5c09e62f9016@redhat.com>

On 2/25/2022 11:13 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 2/25/22 16:12, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't like the idea of making things up without notifying userspace
>>>> that this is fictional. How is my customer running nested VMs supposed
>>>> to know that L2 didn't actually shutdown, but L0 killed it because the
>>>> notify window was exceeded? If this information isn't reported to
>>>> userspace, I have no way of getting the information to the customer.
>>>
>>> Then, maybe a dedicated software define VM exit for it instead of 
>>> reusing triple fault?
>>>
>>
>> Second thought, we can even just return Notify VM exit to L1 to tell 
>> L2 causes Notify VM exit, even thought Notify VM exit is not exposed 
>> to L1.
> 
> That might cause NULL pointer dereferences or other nasty occurrences.

IMO, a well written VMM (in L1) should handle it correctly.

L0 KVM reports no Notify VM Exit support to L1, so L1 runs without 
setting Notify VM exit. If a L2 causes notify_vm_exit with 
invalid_vm_context, L0 just reflects it to L1. In L1's view, there is no 
support of Notify VM Exit from VMX MSR capability. Following L1 handler 
is possible:

a)	if (notify_vm_exit available & notify_vm_exit enabled) {
		handle in b)	
	} else {
		report unexpected vm exit reason to userspace;
	}

b) 	similar handler like we implement in KVM:
	if (!vm_context_invalid)
		re-enter guest;
	else
		report to userspace;

c)	no Notify VM Exit related code (e.g. old KVM), it's treated as 
unsupported exit reason

As long as it belongs to any case above, I think L1 can handle it 
correctly. Any nasty occurrence should be caused by incorrect handler in 
L1 VMM, in my opinion.

> Paolo
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-26  4:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-23  6:24 [PATCH v3] KVM: VMX: Enable Notify VM exit Chenyi Qiang
2022-02-25 11:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-25 12:46   ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-25 14:54 ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-25 15:04   ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-25 15:12     ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-25 15:13       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-25 18:06         ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-25 18:29           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-25 19:15             ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-26  4:07         ` Xiaoyao Li [this message]
2022-02-26  4:25           ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-26  4:53             ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-26  6:24               ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-26 14:24                 ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-28  7:10                   ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-02-28 14:30                     ` Jim Mattson
2022-03-01  1:40                       ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-03-01  4:32                         ` Jim Mattson
2022-03-01  5:30                           ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-03-01 21:57                             ` Jim Mattson
2022-03-02  2:15                               ` Chenyi Qiang

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