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From: "René Herman" <rene.herman@gmail.com>
To: torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Cc: Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
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Subject: Re: [TECH TOPIC] Reaching consensus on CONFIG_HIGHMEM phaseout
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 03:06:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bf46e8f6-221a-40c7-9da5-8003397ff113@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wg0bp-_kqmfaDYQLRJO30LYxEsMu3EKi65sKoi83EUZ3Q@mail.gmail.com>

> Well, while on x86 1GB systems did use highmem, they'd typically not 
> use very much of it.
> 
> IOW, they'd have about 900MB as lowmem (ok, I think it was 896MB to
> be exact), with something like 120MB highmem.
> 
> So they'd either lose a bit of memory, or they'd use the 2G:2G
> split.
Right, 1G-128M of VMALLOC_RESERVE, but they didn't generally use 2G/2G 
but ever since it was introduced late in the 32-bit era VMSPLIT_3G_OPT, 
i.e., PAGE_OFFSET = 0xb0000000, i.e., 3G-256M/1G+256M.

Although at the time the patches died an unceremonious death, 4G/4G 
patches for x86 were also around; I used to be a (conceptual) fan of 
them: it takes quite a number of TLB-flushes to suck more than highmem.

Not one hint of clue if spectre/meltdown is applicable to these systems 
and if so, if they in fact do or should already be suffering through 
those same flushes anyway but maybe it'd be an option to dig those 
patches out of some archive somewhere.

I promise I'll test them on an AMD Duron with 768MB RAM :)

Rene.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-10  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-09 21:23 [TECH TOPIC] Reaching consensus on CONFIG_HIGHMEM phaseout Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-09 21:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-09-09 22:24   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 22:39     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-09-10  1:06     ` René Herman [this message]
2025-09-10  1:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-10  9:49   ` Linus Walleij
2025-09-10 12:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-10 12:32     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-10 13:10 ` Linus Walleij
2025-09-10 14:04   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-10 15:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-10 14:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2025-09-10 16:34   ` Dave Hansen
2025-09-10 20:33     ` Richard Weinberger
2025-09-10 21:56       ` René Herman
2025-09-12 10:30       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-12 12:46         ` Linus Walleij
2025-10-06 20:15         ` Richard Weinberger
2025-09-10 17:11   ` Christophe Leroy
2025-09-10 19:37     ` Richard Weinberger
2025-09-11  5:38 ` Andreas Larsson
2025-09-11  7:53   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-12  9:32     ` Andreas Larsson
2025-09-12  9:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-09-12 10:17       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-12  9:58   ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-09-12 13:16     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-12 16:49 ` Nicolas Ferre
2025-09-12 21:09   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-17 12:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-18 13:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-18 13:34     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-09-18 16:18       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-18 16:32         ` Andrew Lunn
2025-09-19  7:17     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-19 14:22       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-19 14:34         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22  6:58           ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-22 17:05             ` Nicolas Schichan
2025-09-22 21:22               ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-19 14:41       ` Nicolas Ferre
2025-09-19 14:22     ` Nicolas Ferre

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