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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] locking/spinlock_debug: Change it to a mostly fair lock
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 14:46:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bf9e1850-9722-bebf-069d-e27caff0c090@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170207094816.GC9829@gmail.com>

On 02/07/2017 04:48 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 09:15:26AM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
>>>  v2->v3:
>>>   - Keep the original v1 patches but move patch 3 of v2 in front so
>>>     as to disable GENERIC_LOCKBREAK when DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC is on.
>>>
>>>  v1->v2:
>>>   - Pack lockup and break_lock into a single 4-byte slot so as not
>>>     to in increase spinlock size when GENERIC_LOCKBREAK is
>>>     on. Hopefully that will be enough to fix a frame size too large
>>>     warning in 0-day build.
>>>   - Add a new patch to disable GENERIC_LOCKBREAK when DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC
>>>     is on.
>>>
>>> The current debug spinlock implementation is a TATAS unfair lock. This
>>> can occasionally lead to system lockup with a debug kernel because
>>> of the unfairness of the lock rather than inherent locking problem.
>>>
>>> This patch set changes the debug spinlock implementation to a
>>> mostly fair spinlock based on the MCS lock similar to what is done
>>> in qspinlock. It also includes a patch that disable GENERIC_LOCKBREAK
>>> when DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC is on.
>>
>> An alternative is to just delete the thing entirely..
>>
>> Ingo, much of what this thing does seems to be superseded by both
>> lockdep and a reliable NMI watchdog. Is there still value in
>> spinlock_debug?
> So there's still early stages when the NMI watchdog is not running, and 
> spinlock-debug can detect lockups in raw locks that lockdep does not cover, right?
>
> But yeah ... it would simplify things all around, so I'm not unsympathetic to the 
> idea...
>
> I've Cc:-ed a few other locking gents.
>
> Thanks,
>
> 	Ingo

I have no problem deleting the debug_spinlock code entirely. I can
update the patch to delete the code if you guys think that is the right
thing to do.

Cheers,
Longman

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-07 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-02 14:15 [PATCH v3 0/3] locking/spinlock_debug: Change it to a mostly fair lock Waiman Long
2017-02-02 14:15 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] locking/spinlock: Disable GENERIC_LOCKBREAK when DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC is on Waiman Long
2017-02-02 14:15 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] locking/spinlock_debug: Reduce lockup suspected message clutter Waiman Long
2017-02-02 14:15 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] locking/spinlock_debug: Reduce lock cacheline contention Waiman Long
2017-02-07  8:45 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] locking/spinlock_debug: Change it to a mostly fair lock Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-07  9:48   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-02-07 19:46     ` Waiman Long [this message]
2017-02-07 19:53       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-02-08  9:27         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-08 13:02           ` Paul E. McKenney

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