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From: OSDL <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Does sysfs really provides persistent hardware path to devices?
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 09:54:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bfubnh$vil$1@build.pdx.osdl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200307262036.13989.arvidjaar@mail.ru

Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
> 
> As far as I can tell sysfs device names include logical bus numbers which
> means, if hardware is added or removed it is possible names do change.

Absolutely.

The fact is, the kernel _cannot_ give persistent names to devices, because
it is simply not a problem that is solvable with the resources the kernel
has access to.

For persistent naming, you need (a) user policy and (b) stable storage,
neither of which the kernel has. 

GregKH has a "udev" setup that plugs into /sbin/hotplug and uses sysfs
to implement stable naming. So sysfs is part of the picture, but it's
not the whole answer.

> the point is - I want to create aliases that would point to specific
> slots. I.e. when I plug USB memory stick in upper slot on front panel I'd
> like to always create the same device alias for it.

Right: what you're asking for is persistent per-device user policy.

                Linus 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-07-26 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-26 16:36 Does sysfs really provides persistent hardware path to devices? Andrey Borzenkov
2003-07-26 16:43 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-07-26 16:50 ` Greg KH
2003-07-28 16:44   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2003-07-28 17:03     ` Greg KH
2003-08-17 16:41       ` Andrey Borzenkov
2003-08-17 18:28         ` Greg KH
2003-08-18  2:04           ` jw schultz
2003-08-18 20:47             ` Greg KH
2003-07-26 16:54 ` OSDL [this message]
2003-07-26 16:59 ` J.C. Wren
2003-07-26 17:07   ` Greg KH
2003-07-26 22:51   ` Dax Kelson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-08-18  6:21 "Andrey Borzenkov" 
2003-08-18 20:42 ` your mail Greg KH
2003-08-31 10:54   ` Does sysfs really provides persistent hardware path to devices? Andrey Borzenkov
2003-09-24 21:18     ` Greg KH
2004-01-17 20:34       ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-17 21:34         ` Greg KH
2004-01-19 13:08         ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-19 13:59           ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-19 14:04             ` Olaf Hering
2004-03-14 11:53           ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-03-14 19:25             ` Horst von Brand
2003-08-19 17:56 David Brownell

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