From: "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hps@intermeta.de>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]]
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:16:35 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bk30d3$ftu$1@tangens.hometree.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.10.10309132152510.16744-100000@master.linux-ide.org
Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org> writes:
>It is coming and the intent is to return all the stolen symbols.
>It is free for anyone to use and enjoy the usage of Linux once again.
>So everyone get in line and SUE ME for GPL'ed drivers.
[... module code that would re-export GPL-marked symbols as non-GPL-marked snipped ...]
Well,
generally speaking, you're of course right. You're simply using the
loophole of Linus' agreement to binary only modules to use a fully
GPL'ed module (which might use the _GPL symbols), then consider the
aggregation to be under GPL (IMHO correct) and then consider this
aggregation of kernel and your module to be still covered by Linus'
agreement (don't know whether this is true. You might want to actually
ask Linus himself... ;-) )
IMHO doing so might be the best way to make Linus (as the main
copyright holder on the kernel source) to simply revoke the "I won't
object to loading binary only modules in the GPL'ed kernel" agreement
and simply say "From Kernel 2.6 on, every aggregation of modules in
kernel space is considered to be an aggregation in the GPL v2 sense of
meaning as covered by the GPL v2. So if you want to load a module,
it's code is better be GPL'ed too".
In other words: You might force the copyright holder(s) of the Linux
kernel to kill your business model dead.
Is this really what you want? It's basically the same thing that
people do with BitKeeper and Mr. McVoy: Annoy the people that you
might depend on long enough and they might stop being friendly to you
[1]. You might want to ask yourself if this _really_ is what you want
to achieve.
... just my random 0,02 Euro-Cent
Henning
[1] The people opposing to BK might not use it themselves but they n
might be heavily using a project which might not be able to go on
without BK because the main developers have stated often enough, that
they won't be able to cope with the work load without BK: The Linux
kernel.
--
Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH
hps@intermeta.de +49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/
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[not found] ` <ujV3.1uP.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-10 21:52 ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-10 22:26 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-10 22:34 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-11 1:35 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 13:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-11 18:39 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 18:45 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-13 17:52 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 23:54 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-13 17:34 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 10:55 ` Sean Estabrooks
2003-09-11 14:36 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 17:42 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-12 20:58 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-12 21:47 ` Matt D. Robinson
2003-09-12 22:31 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-12 23:26 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 0:29 ` Matt D. Robinson
2003-09-13 17:42 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 5:38 ` jw schultz
2003-09-13 17:44 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 18:19 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 20:01 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 23:17 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 1:57 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 2:40 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 3:42 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 3:36 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 4:37 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 4:58 ` freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 5:39 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 5:32 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 6:41 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14 6:50 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 7:10 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 8:08 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-15 0:17 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-15 5:57 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-15 6:14 ` Nick Piggin
2003-10-05 0:52 ` Rob Landley
2003-10-05 1:05 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 2:34 ` viro
2003-10-05 3:45 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 10:24 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 13:56 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 14:14 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 10:23 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 11:32 ` David Lang
2003-10-05 13:37 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 6:40 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 7:39 ` viro
2003-10-05 18:27 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 19:21 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:03 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:14 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:34 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:43 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-06 1:22 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-06 1:37 ` David Lang
2003-10-06 1:51 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 19:32 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-10-05 19:47 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:38 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 19:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-09-14 8:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-09-15 0:16 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen [this message]
2003-09-15 0:27 ` Justin Cormack
2003-09-14 21:40 ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] David Schwartz
2003-09-15 8:06 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-14 2:51 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 3:05 ` GPL == DMCA [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Andre Hedrick
2003-10-29 22:42 ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] David Schwartz
2003-10-29 23:11 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-30 0:10 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 1:39 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 17:11 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 21:11 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-13 21:19 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 21:12 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 22:09 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 22:30 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-14 1:16 ` Andrew Pimlott
2003-09-15 15:26 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-09-13 23:00 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-12 21:04 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-12 21:17 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-15 18:24 ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-15 20:17 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 18:09 ` Andre Hedrick
[not found] <vyRY.6te.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <vzkY.7cC.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-14 9:16 ` freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-14 17:09 ` Stan Bubrouski
[not found] <fa.grj6i7d.lmorqn@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.n320lec.1p4i0gc@ifi.uio.no>
2003-10-05 16:44 ` walt
[not found] <Dnwo.1ew.15@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <DnPL.3XB.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <DsvX.3yN.1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-10-06 18:28 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-10-06 18:38 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-06 21:29 ` Olivier Galibert
2003-10-07 0:56 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-07 8:40 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-07 8:56 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 10:13 ` Roman Zippel
2003-10-07 10:33 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 10:44 ` Roman Zippel
2003-10-07 11:25 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 14:03 ` Roman Zippel
2003-10-07 19:09 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-07 8:58 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-07 14:16 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-07 14:48 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-07 8:28 ` David Woodhouse
[not found] <DIre.Cy.15@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <DIre.Cy.17@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <DIre.Cy.19@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <DIre.Cy.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <DIAQ.2Hh.5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-10-06 18:56 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-10-06 19:09 ` David Lang
2003-10-06 20:08 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-07 10:49 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-10 12:14 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-10 12:48 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-10 13:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 12:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 13:07 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-10 13:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-06 22:46 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-06 23:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-07 0:20 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-10-07 2:31 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-07 10:03 Pascal Schmidt
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