From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264414AbTLBWQT (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:16:19 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264415AbTLBWQT (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:16:19 -0500 Received: from tmr-02.dsl.thebiz.net ([216.238.38.204]:47624 "EHLO gatekeeper.tmr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264414AbTLBWQR (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:16:17 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Path: gatekeeper.tmr.com!davidsen From: davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen) Newsgroups: mail.linux-kernel Subject: Re: libata in 2.4.24? Date: 2 Dec 2003 22:05:09 GMT Organization: TMR Associates, Schenectady NY Message-ID: References: <3FCB4506.8080305@wanadoo.es> X-Trace: gatekeeper.tmr.com 1070402709 14028 192.168.12.62 (2 Dec 2003 22:05:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@tmr.com Originator: davidsen@gatekeeper.tmr.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In article , Marcelo Tosatti wrote: | | | On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: | | > Marcelo Tosatti wrote: | > | > > On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: | > >> | > >> I'm happy to include it in 2.4 when Jeff thinks its stable enough for a | > >> stable series. ;) | > | > > I thought a bit more about this issue and I have a different opinion now. | > > | > > 2.6 is getting more and more stable and already includes libata --- users | > > who need it should use 2.6. | > | > Does it mean that 2.4.x is going to freeze, and only critical and security | > patches are going to be applied ? | | Yes this will happen in the near future. | | I still might accept some "non critical" modifications (which is btw, not | an objective defition) to 2.4.24, but for 2.4.25 that will be the rule. I hope you will continue to allow changes like new drivers and the like, there are many things in 2.6 which are not only not working but unlikely to ever be fixed because they are "old technology" and have been replaced by more interesting and less functional alternatives, but which are highly useful for people who have to use what is available in terms of hardware. That's "what the client/boss what's to provide" as well as "what the individual can afford." It's not just hobby stuff or old PCs being used, there are people selling laptops with ACPI more disfunctional than the Simpsons. Suspend via APM works fine, though. Unless a miracle occurs it will take as long for 2.6 to be really stable and fully functional as it did for 2.[024]. When it goes out in distros and gets abused by users for a while the sharp corners will be broken off. -- bill davidsen CTO, TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.