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From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
To: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/4] procfs: add "pidns" mount option
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2025 17:19:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1ba0f8d-6b3c-4c2b-863c-2ce374df723c@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250805-procfs-pidns-api-v4-2-705f984940e7@cyphar.com>

Hi,

On 8/4/25 10:45 PM, Aleksa Sarai wrote:
> Since the introduction of pid namespaces, their interaction with procfs
> has been entirely implicit in ways that require a lot of dancing around
> by programs that need to construct sandboxes with different PID
> namespaces.
> 
> Being able to explicitly specify the pid namespace to use when
> constructing a procfs super block will allow programs to no longer need
> to fork off a process which does then does unshare(2) / setns(2) and
> forks again in order to construct a procfs in a pidns.
> 
> So, provide a "pidns" mount option which allows such users to just
> explicitly state which pid namespace they want that procfs instance to
> use. This interface can be used with fsconfig(2) either with a file
> descriptor or a path:
> 
>   fsconfig(procfd, FSCONFIG_SET_FD, "pidns", NULL, nsfd);
>   fsconfig(procfd, FSCONFIG_SET_STRING, "pidns", "/proc/self/ns/pid", 0);
> 
> or with classic mount(2) / mount(8):
> 
>   // mount -t proc -o pidns=/proc/self/ns/pid proc /tmp/proc
>   mount("proc", "/tmp/proc", "proc", MS_..., "pidns=/proc/self/ns/pid");
> 
> As this new API is effectively shorthand for setns(2) followed by
> mount(2), the permission model for this mirrors pidns_install() to avoid
> opening up new attack surfaces by loosening the existing permission
> model.
> 
> In order to avoid having to RCU-protect all users of proc_pid_ns() (to
> avoid UAFs), attempting to reconfigure an existing procfs instance's pid
> namespace will error out with -EBUSY. Creating new procfs instances is
> quite cheap, so this should not be an impediment to most users, and lets
> us avoid a lot of churn in fs/proc/* for a feature that it seems
> unlikely userspace would use.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst |  8 ++++
>  fs/proc/root.c                     | 98 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>  2 files changed, 100 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst b/Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst
> index 5236cb52e357..5a157dadea0b 100644
> --- a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst
> @@ -2360,6 +2360,7 @@ The following mount options are supported:
>  	hidepid=	Set /proc/<pid>/ access mode.
>  	gid=		Set the group authorized to learn processes information.
>  	subset=		Show only the specified subset of procfs.
> +	pidns=		Specify a the namespace used by this procfs.

			drop ^^ a

>  	=========	========================================================
>  
>  hidepid=off or hidepid=0 means classic mode - everybody may access all
> @@ -2392,6 +2393,13 @@ information about processes information, just add identd to this group.
>  subset=pid hides all top level files and directories in the procfs that
>  are not related to tasks.
>  
> +pidns= specifies a pid namespace (either as a string path to something like
> +`/proc/$pid/ns/pid`, or a file descriptor when using `FSCONFIG_SET_FD`) that
> +will be used by the procfs instance when translating pids. By default, procfs
> +will use the calling process's active pid namespace. Note that the pid
> +namespace of an existing procfs instance cannot be modified (attempting to do
> +so will give an `-EBUSY` error).
> +
>  Chapter 5: Filesystem behavior
>  ==============================
>  
-- 
~Randy


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-06  0:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-05  5:45 [PATCH v4 0/4] procfs: make reference pidns more user-visible Aleksa Sarai
2025-08-05  5:45 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] pidns: move is-ancestor logic to helper Aleksa Sarai
2025-08-05  5:45 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] procfs: add "pidns" mount option Aleksa Sarai
2025-08-05  7:29   ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-08-06 10:25     ` Askar Safin
2025-08-06 14:12       ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-08-07  7:17         ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-08-08 14:09           ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-08 15:51             ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-08-06  0:19   ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2025-08-05  5:45 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] procfs: add PROCFS_GET_PID_NAMESPACE ioctl Aleksa Sarai
2025-08-06  0:25   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-08-06 18:02     ` Aleksa Sarai
2025-08-06 18:57       ` Randy Dunlap
2025-08-08 14:12         ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-05  5:45 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] selftests/proc: add tests for new pidns APIs Aleksa Sarai
2025-09-02  9:54 ` (subset) [PATCH v4 0/4] procfs: make reference pidns more user-visible Christian Brauner
2025-09-02 10:02 ` Christian Brauner

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